Hi Peter,

On 8 Apr 2013, at 08:42, Peter Murray-Rust <[email protected]> wrote:
> It is critical that data is labelled by an independent organization like ODI. 
> because there are initiatives to reduce the scope of openness (certainly in 
> "open Access"). For example some publishers are setting up (data) publication 
> systems where there can be a  price differential between CC-BY and CC-NC - 
> the latter would not earn any TBL stars, let alone 5.

Agreed. But how would that work? A group could get together to pay for CC-BY 
and then republish under that licence, couldn't they?

> Universities have almost completely failed to show any interest in labelling 
> their published data but I think research funders would welcome an ODI stamp.

Excellent. What I think we should aim towards is a statement like "data must be 
published to 'standard' or 'exemplar' level against the ODI Open Data 
Certificate". This is why we need to make sure we get the levels pitched right 
to enable these statements to be made and to be achievable.

> As a small provider of Open Data I understand the technical difficulties of 
> making a dynamic data set completely available ("dump") and in some cases we 
> may have to have a best-endeavour. The biosciences do very well in making 
> their dynamic data available but they also get considerable funding to do it. 
> I think stamps in that area would be very valuable

It's tricky, and we need to balance ease of implementation and utility of 
dumps. If it's really hard to achieve the 'standard' level it will devalue the 
certificate as a whole, so I'd really welcome feedback about the feasibility of 
the requirements.

Thanks,

Jeni
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Jeni Tennison, Technical Director   theODI.org
+44 (0) 7974 420 482                @JeniT


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