Hi Herb, unfortunately I don't have time to read it in details, but I can check a broader community. From your previous e-mail, I understand changes are just details.
If by public discussion you mean a specific mailing list about the OD, OK, I tend to have another approach. Since several groups and organizations use the OD as a principle to build their projects, maybe, at least, okfn-discuss and okfn-local-coord should be consulted before a final statement, because here we have, I guess, the main hubs for a more crowdsourcing work. I leave you and the board with this suggestion, no necessity to follow. I'll try to look a bit more often the public OD mailing list to see if I have time to consult the Brazilian community in a next opportunity, if I see it's necessary. @Mike: thanks for your explanation in the following e-mail. [1] [1] https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/okfn-discuss/2014-October/010607.html Tom 2014-10-06 21:15 GMT-03:00 Herb Lainchbury <[email protected]>: > Everton, > > > Thank you for your note. > > Many parties rely on the Open Definition. Anyone is welcome to join in the > discussion which is public and occurs on od-discuss. > > The Open Definition Advisory Council is responsible for maintaining and > developing the definition. > > We can't know all of the parties individually so we reach out to the > groups we are aware of and rely on others who have a specific interest in > the Definition to join in on the public discussion. > > The new version of the definition was discussed publicly on od-discuss > over a period of 9 or so months. > > As chair of the advisory council, I feel that the process was given an > appropriate amount of time and that sufficient opportunity was provided for > feedback and collaboration. > > Mainly the changes were to make the language clearer and to separate the > conditions relating to licenses from those relating to works but please do > read it to see the changes for yourself. > > If after reading the definition, you would like to propose changes to the > definition I would encourage you to post your proposal on the od-discuss > list. > > If you have suggestions on how to improve our process, we would be happy > to receive them on the od-discuss list as well. > > > Herb Lainchbury > Chair, Open Definition Advisory Council > > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> In my opinion, important changes of the open definition (OD) should be >> sent to the *okfn-discuss* and* okfn-local-coord *mailing lists, since a >> lot of our is based on the OD. >> >> If that was not the case (I cannot check if there is some relevant >> improvement now), I kindly ask for we have some extra time for we check >> with our local collaborators at the open knowledge network for a proof >> reading. >> >> If we don't have time for some reason and there is some substantial >> change that affect all of us, well, patience. >> >> Tom >> >> 2014-10-06 19:36 GMT-03:00 Aaron Wolf <[email protected]>: >> >>> I'm sorry I didn't follow up on it, but here's what happened: >>> >>> Over on the OD discussion list, there was a call for voting as to >>> whether we had reached the final v2. >>> >>> My comment is here: >>> https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/od-discuss/2014-August/000974.html >>> >>> I never added my +1 (despite being perfectly happy with our result). I >>> said instead that we needed to engage the larger list before *any* >>> statement that there was any official anything (especially given the logo >>> issues). Apparently, I was just ignored. >>> >>> I still object to the way people active on the OD list just went and >>> said, "ok, we all discussed and worked out things, we're all happy, now we >>> announce to the world." I was actually there to say, "no, we need to tell >>> the broader OK community about what we've got and get feedback before any >>> announcements otherwise" but I failed to keep bugging people about that, >>> and I guess nobody else shared my concerns enough to reply to my post or >>> otherwise do this the right way. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Aaron Wolf (just a volunteer who decided to help on the OD list) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Aaron Wolf >>> wolftune.com >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Samuel Azoulay <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I just noticed that the autumn newsletter of the Open Knowledge >>>> addresses the launch of the "Open Definition 2.0". >>>> >>>> Either I missed it and I apologize if this is the case, or the whole >>>> community has not been consulted or even informed of the procedure of >>>> renewal of the Open Definition. I think this is unfortunate, especially >>>> regarding such a crucial topic who contributes to shape the image of the >>>> Open Knowledge by setting standards which are broadly used. >>>> >>>> It was apparently planned >>>> <https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/od-discuss/2014-September/001021.html> to >>>> inform OK's lists (discuss, local-coord...) in advance but this has not >>>> been done unless I'm mistaken (1 >>>> <https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/od-discuss/2014-September/001021.html> >>>> and 2 >>>> <https://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/okfn-discuss/2014-October/thread.html> >>>> ). >>>> >>>> Could you give us some news? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Samuel Azoulay >>>> OK France >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Samuel Azoulay* >>>> >>>> Twitter : @Sam_azl >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> okfn-discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> okfn-discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) >> Open Knowledge Brasil - Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre >> http://br.okfn.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> od-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/od-discuss >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/od-discuss >> >> > > > -- > > Herb Lainchbury, Dynamic Solutions > 250.704.6154 > http://www.dynamic-solutions.com > > -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) Open Knowledge Brasil - Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre http://br.okfn.org
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