On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Karen Coyle <[email protected]> wrote: > OK, I'll confess to being a professional librarian... > > It is common to include the series number, e.g. "v. 17" after the title: > > The Story of civilization, v. VII > > In the standard library record (MARC21), the title of the series and > the number of the series are in separate subfields in the series > field. That's for the convenience of linking the series title with > other records with the same series title without the number making > them a non-match. At the same time, it's also nice to be able to > search for a particular number in a series. > > Since the OL series field is a single string, I think that putting the > series title followed by a comma and the series number should suffice. > If it should be desired to link the entries in a series, the fields > could be parsed into series title and number. Meanwhile, the OL series > fields will look comfortably close to how most people would cite a > series and would understand it.
I thought the whole point of having fields in a database record was to avoid having to do string parsing, with all its problems, to recover your original data. If multiple fields are going to be munged together into a single string, what are the escaping rules for delimiters contained in the original strings? What are the parsing rules? Tom > > kc > > > > Quoting Roger Loran Bailey <[email protected]>: > >> Well, there are standards and there are common usages. Most of us know, for >> example, what standard English is, but very few people actually talk that >> way. Standards of library cataloging are a bit more obscure though. If we >> have a professional librarian here I suppose we can get an answer to what >> the standard is. As for common usage, though, the most common catalog >> entries that I see place the number of the book in a series with the name of >> the series. In fact, examples of it being done differently do not come to >> mind right now. That is why I suspect that to be the standard, but I cannot >> be sure. The authorities who make up the standards can make up some pretty >> obscure ones sometimes. As for myself, I would place the number with the >> series title until someone who has the credentials says otherwise. >> >> >> _ _ _ >> >> "Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks >> differently." - Rosa Luxemburg >> >> >> The Militant: >> http://www.themilitant.com >> Pathfinder Press: >> http://www.pathfinderpress.com >> Granma International: >> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alan Millar" <[email protected]> >> To: "Open Library -- general discussion" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [ol-discuss] Series titles: include individual ID or not? >> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Roger Loran Bailey >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I think I would add the series number. There doesn't seem to be much >>>> point >>>> in identifying a book as being in a series if there is no indication of >>>> which one in the series it is. >>> >>> Yes, certainly, we want the number identifying which one in the series it >>> is. >>> >>> To expand or clarify, then, I guess my specific question is whether >>> that should go in the series name field, or in another field such as >>> the subtitle. >>> >>> I know data gets conflated when translated between different >>> databases, but I don't know what is considered the standard or proper >>> way of describing the series collective and individual data (if there >>> is such a thing). >>> >>> Thanks for the feedback. >>> >>> - Alan >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ol-discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >>> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] >> > > > > -- > Karen Coyle > [email protected] http://kcoyle.net > ph: 1-510-540-7596 > m: 1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet > > _______________________________________________ > Ol-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ Ol-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [email protected]
