Thanks for the nice comment! I think you and the Open Library are doing invaluable work moving us into the future of the world of books.
It turns out that the Google Books link that I mentioned below actually is an example of how some of the "instant" display time Google links misfire. Even though the LCCN in our citation is correct, I verified it against the Library of Congress catalog, the Google indexing seems to be problematic in this case. So they seem to be in "beta" release form, just as the Open Library claimed to be for a long time, though I no longer notice that disclaimer on the current OL home page. Richard Aroksaar NPS Voyager System Administrator 206-220-4252 206-612-2006 (cell) [email protected] wrote on 12/30/2010 03:42:45 PM: > Oh, Richard, this is very nice! > > I tried adding the volumes as links on the edition, but unfortunately > links get moved to the Work and are supposed to be links to things > outside of OL, but I think an Edition-level link would do it. It is > possible to add more than one Archive number for an Edition. I tried > doing that, but my added link doesn't seem to take.... I'll check to > see if this is a known bug. In any case, all you see is the archive > ID, and it isn't clear what volume goes with which ID unless you're > something of an insider. > > kc > > > Quoting [email protected]: > > > I've been adding links to Internet Archive scanned books into the U.S. > > National Park Service library catalog: > > http://www.library.nps.gov/ > > > > When I add links for multivolume works I spell out the volume number in the > > link that is on our bibliographic > > metadata page, which goes to the Internet Archive metadata page. Basically > > I feel that it is appropriate for the IA page > > to have a one to one relationship to each scanned book but the > > bibliographic metadata page in our catalog, > > as well as the one on Open Library, can and should have a one to many > > relationship to scanned books. > > > > Here is an example of a work held by Morristown National Historical Park > > that's been scanned out of the > > University of California Library collections: > > http://www.library.nps.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi? > DB=local&BOOL1=all+of+these&FLD1=Keyword+Anywhere+(GKEY) > &CNT=25+records+per+page&SAB1=NPSPARKMORR120 > > > > With some citations I have links to multiple copies of scans also. I feel > > that this redundance is good because > > some scans may not be as good as others, some originals may not be as good > > as others. Also, redundance > > can protect against maliciously adulterated digital copies. > > > > The above example also has a Google Books "About This Book" link created by > > the software that we use, at display time > > via a look up using embedded numeric identifiers in the underlying MARC > > record. > > > > The software that we use is the same as that used by the U.S. Library of > > Congress, Ex Libris' Voyager, though their use > > would be more conservative than my usages, which I feel anticipate FRBR. > > > > Because I spell out "Internet Archive" in my links, that is actually a > > "keyword anywhere" searchable phrase that can be used to > > isolate citations with links to readable online books that fit the scope of > > the National Park Service libraries. > > > > Richard Aroksaar > > NPS Voyager System Administrator > > 206-220-4252 > > 206-612-2006 (cell) > > > > [email protected] wrote on 12/30/2010 02:21:43 PM: > > > >> Yes, the multi-volume book "problem" appears a handful of times in the > >> bug list. We've talked about various solutions, including using the > >> Table of Contents as a way to link the volumes to the bibliographic > >> data. It's tricky because the Archive treats them as separate items > >> since each one results in a separate digital file. > >> > >> At the moment there isn't a way (AFAIK) to link an entry in the > >> archive to a volume listed in the ToC, so I don't know of a way to > >> connect up v. 2 of the work to the digital file for v. 2. Has anyone > >> added multiple Archive identifiers for multi-volume works on a single > >> edition record? There wouldn't be a one-to-one link between the > >> individual volumes and the correct identifier, but at least they'd be > >> on the same edition record. > >> > >> Anyway, this is a known problem, and possibly one for which there > >> isn't yet a good solution. > >> > >> kc > >> > >> Quoting Steve Thomas <[email protected]>: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I'm looking at works in archive.org, and I see that the catalogue > > records > >> > for multi-volume works includes a separate record for each > > volume,typically > >> > without a volume number. > >> > > >> > E.g. > >> > http://openlibrary. > >> > > > org/works/OL20752W/Works_containing_additional_letters_tracts_and_poems_not_hitherto_published > > > >> > > >> > <http://openlibrary. > >> > > > org/works/OL20752W/Works_containing_additional_letters_tracts_and_poems_not_hitherto_published > > > >> >where > >> > it looks like there are multiple editions, when in fact they are > > (almost) > >> > all separate volumes of the same edition. > >> > > >> > There's nowhere in Edit that lets me add a volume number, which means > > that a > >> > user would have to open each volume separately to find out which volume > > it > >> > is. > >> > > >> > Obviously, best practice would be to have all volumes listed as items > > under > >> > a single title, but it doesn't look like OL is set up for that. > >> > > >> > Next best would be to include the volume number in the title, to > > distinguish > >> > them. > >> > > >> > Thoughts? > >> > > >> > Steve > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Stephen Thomas, > >> > Senior Systems Analyst, > >> > Barr Smith Library > >> > UNIVERSITY OF ADELAIDE SA 5005 AUSTRALIA > >> > Phone: +61 8 830 35190 / Mobile: 0402 069 087 / Fax: +61 8 830 34369 > >> > Email: [email protected] > >> > URL: http://www.adelaide.edu.au/directory/stephen.thomas > >> > CRICOS Provider Number 00123M > >> > > >> > Editor of ebo...@adelaide <http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/> > >> > > >> > [image: Facebook] <http://www.facebook.com/spotrick>[image: > >> > LinkedIn]<http://au.linkedin.com/in/sgathomas>[image: > >> > Flickr] <http://www.flickr.com/photos/spotrick/>[image: > >> > Twitter]<http://twitter.com/spotrick>[image: > >> > Delicious] <http://delicious.com/spotrick>[image: > >> > WordPress]<http://spotrick.wordpress.com/>[image: > >> > Google] <http://www.google.com/profiles/st3v3th0ma5#buzz> > >> > > >> > *Please consider the environment before printing.* > >> > > >> > IMPORTANT: This message may contain confidential or legally privileged > >> > information. 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