On 3/16/13 9:10 AM, David Cuenca wrote: > Tom, thanks for starting a new thread. I've written a short overview > about the state of the "booksphere" (webpages/services related to > books). Feel free to correct it / expand it: > http://piratepad.net/5QhLcgbyTt
David, this is actually an interesting start for an upcoming NISO meeting on bibliographic metadata: http://www.niso.org/topics/tl/BibliographicRoadmap/ While OL focuses on books, we need to think about how that can interact with the other forms of recorded knowledge. There are whole disciplines today who hardly ever use a book - their knowledge is in a combination of journal articles and data sets. As a first step in your list, I'd separate the full text and the bibliographic metadata storage. For example, the Internet Archive stores full text; OL stores only metadata, but with some links to full text. > > In my opinion there are several roles that the OL can perform very well: > - linking hub / aggregation: point to online resources which are > specialized in key areas (scans, reviews, transcriptions, annotations, etc) > - bibliographic data server: provide bibliographic data, including > provenance: who created that data, when, and under which license (or > only provide free data). > - book copyright info: who holds the rights and how long for. Search > capabilities to find public domain works. Unfortunately, the copyright information is not available. One of the huge problems that we have today is that there is no requirement that copyright owners maintain a legal record of their ownership. Even when there was such a requirement, over time copyright information has been lost. That is why we have a large number of "orphan works." However, I would add one other possible role for OL, and that is as a source of http URIs for works. There is no other good source for this. ISBN identifies individual publications, but those only date back to the late 1960's. Various national libraries have assigned identifiers to publications that could be considered authoritative. But there is no other source of identifiers for works (that is the aggregation of publications of the same text). > > Then there are roles which, while possible, seem to be already covered > extensively by other webpages and it might be too late to compete with > them, namely: > - reviews > - lists > - recommendation engine (based on reviews) Yes, but OL does link to some of those, and therefore becomes part of the web of data about books. It would be great to begin to look at that web in terms of the new W3C annotations standard. http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/ > > And finally there is the unexplored field of creative commons > publishing. It might be unrelated to the OL, but I haven't found any > website in the free culture community that caters for: > - self-publishing: connecting writers, proofreaders/editors, and cover > creators that want to collaborate publishing CC works Are you thinking that someone should store the works themselves, or the metadata? Anyone can upload such a work to the Archive, and some authors have added their own works to OL. However, if the works are not open access, then they can't be uploaded digitally. > - CC works storage: something like PG or WS, but for newly created works > - on-demand printing > - donations for the authors (indiegogo and kickstarter take care of > crowdfunding only) > The solutions that exist right now are: Lulu (for-profit), Amazon > CreateSpace (for-profit), unglue.it <http://unglue.it> (crowfunding for > releasing copyrighted works as CC) and BooksLLC (sells digital/printed > PD works). While not in the original plan, maybe you can also give it > some thought to this. unglue.it does add its metadata to OL. Any of the others are also free to do so. Perhaps was is needed is an easy "upload" interface that takes some standard formats (like BIBTeX or RIS). kc > > Cheers, > David > > > _______________________________________________ > Ol-discuss mailing list > Ol-discuss@archive.org > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > ol-discuss-unsubscr...@archive.org > -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet _______________________________________________ Ol-discuss mailing list Ol-discuss@archive.org http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-discuss To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to ol-discuss-unsubscr...@archive.org
