(Hey there list...long time lurker, first time poster)

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> The key here is that people love
> their suv's and don't care about the mpg's or the $
> they spend.  That is why the little jap and Korean
> cars are getting heftier and have worse mileage than
> they did when they entered the American market. 
> It's
> us the consumer, they are just providing the buying
> public with what it is they want.


I totally agree with Steve here...All they're doing is
pandering to the childish and wanton desires of the
car buying public, whatever they may be at the
time...(It wasn't that long ago that we were all
totin' around in Toyota Corollas and Ford Taruses that
could barely make it up a hill, but they got really
nice fuel economy though...Oh yes, the Go Go 90s...Now
a Toyota Corolla is a quick little car, with a fully
loaded V6 it will run on high-octane Premium Gas
only...just go to the Oy Toyota website...lol!)

I just love generic car rants like this one, by the
way...:D

And ya know I've observed something, too...There seems
to be a pattern in the tastes' of the American car
buying public over the decades, one that waxes and
wanes...It seems roughly every 20 years the desire
seems to shift from smaller, sleeker and more
efficient to bigger, better and more powerful...The
1920s for instance was probably America's first true
"muscle car" war...Longer, studier chasises and
wheelbases and more MPH and horsepower were certainly
all the rage back then, especially in the sales
literature (some of the Lincolns and Deusenbergs of
the era boasted wheelbase lengths of some 140 - 160
inches, I believe)...

20 years later was The War, so obviously bigger and
more powerful wasn't quite as popular at the time (our
steel and other supplies were taxed, and the auto
makes weren't even in production then)...It seemed as
if for a time the "bigger, better more powerful"
fetish had died, giving way to a new kind of communal
support for our soldiers...People didn't do a whole
lot of driving in their cars in those days, and those
that did often drove old used ones...

Then another 20 years later was the 60s...Gas was
cheap and the size, curb weights and hp ratings were
at their highest...Again, 20 years later cars were
smaller, sleeker and more aerodynamic (Carter and
Reagan) and the last thing most Americans wanted or
could afford then was a 2 1/2 ton assault tank with 8
cylinders (alla 81 Yawnda Civic or diesel V-lkswagon
Rabbit)...

Now 20 years later at the turn of this new century,
Americans tastes' have once again shifted to bigger,
better and more power (the Cadillac EscaPade, for
instance weighs roughly 5000 pounds and makes a
whopping 375 hp...Whopping by 90s standards)...It
appears as if there is something of a reneissance
happening in the American car industry today...Given,
those road turtles and sailboats you see today aren't
nearly as beautiful or well engineered as our chrome
plated steel bodied coupes sedans and wagons, but
their performance is definately competitive as well as
their dimensions (not just the truck/van/SUV fad, even
passenger cars are getting quicker and bulkier, too as
Steve pointed out)...I don't like the cars and trucks
of today...Their stodginess and sameism does not
appeal to me, though I will say this: We've come a
long way from the econoboxes of the 80s and 90s...

So I guess it's just a pattern...a cycle...sortof like
the presidential assasination attempts, the so-called
"Killing Of The King" phenomenon that also seems to
strike every 20-30 years...

I guess when Americans finally decide to grow up and
make up their minds and choose if they want to drive a
Panzer or a shopping cart, perhaps then the avg. auto
will squeeze 100-200 miles out of a gallon of
gas...but for now and for the last 80 years of car
history, that doesn't look like something that will
EVER happen...People are simply too fickle...

=Yochanan
84 Olds Custom Cruiser 311
68 Chrysl3r Town & Country 440


 
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