Kerry, > OK Milton I agree with most of what you have said here > but!!!! > Nuke power plants produce more energy than they > consume?? Right??
No. The Law of Conservation of Energy applies everywhere in our universe. The power produced by a nuclear power plant is covered by Einstein's famous equation: E=MC2. All the energy comes from the breaking of particle bonds in the nucleus of each atom. That is a tremendous amount of energy release. The energy equation still balances inside a nuclear reactor, energy in equals energy out. The difference in nuclear power reactors is that some designs are much more efficient than older designs. The U.S. is saddled with old style nuclear reactors. The Europeans, the British, and the Japanese are 3-4 generations ahead of us in the types of nuclear reactors they use. Their electrical power generation from the output of their nuclear reactors is much more efficient than the power we get. > So the energy is contained in the > atomic structure and is converted to another form in > the reactor? No, not in the reactor, outside the reactor. The energy from the reactor is used to heat water, or liquid cessium, or another working fliud, which carries the heat to water, creating a superheated steam to run turbine electrical power generators. > Can't the H2O's energy be converted to a more usable > form and be used to produce work. Its still there and > conserved according to the laws of physics. at the > end there would be what, less H2O?? That's not the real problem. First, it takes a certain amount of energy to separate the H2 and the O2 from the water. Then, the H2 and the O2 is burned together to make power and do work. The question is, how much energy was necessary to produce a sufficient quantity of H2 and O2 to be able to burn it together and make the required power. So far, even with this guy's improved electrolyis method, it's not economical, at least on a smal scale, and ramp up to large scale has posed some problems that haven't been overcome. There's also one other small problem with using H2 that I've been simply amazed that no one has been talking about. H2 at low pressure burns with a clear flame in daylight. That's right, one can't see it. Even a high pressure H2 jet is mostly invisible. Take a look at the space shuttle main engines burning. The color in the flame cone is almost non-existant. Just thing\k of a small low pressure leak at a H2 refueling station for a H2 fueled car. Somehow it ignites. No one can see the flame. A motorist who is refueling their car walks into it and catches their pants leg on fire. I've used H2. We used it in our NASA funded Scram-Jet experiments to keep the flame lit in the combustion stage at high Mach numbers to stop flame-out. The safety precautions for using H2 as a fuel are extensive, because one can't see the flame burning in daylight. > NASA has had hydrogen generators and motors for years > right? I wonder how they work verses this guys low > voltage water fracture machine? I don't know how they compare, except the items at NASA that burn liquid H2 are rocket engines. I do have a small problem with the term "fracture." The bond in the electron shell of a H2O molecule must be broken to separate H2 from O2. I'm just not sure I'm comfortable with describing it as fracture. That seems to say that energy is released, yet he claims there is no increase in water temperature. I'd really like to sit down and talk to the inventor. BTW, would you like to know how the NERVA and ROVER nuclear rocket engines worked in the late '50s and early '60s, the engines that would have put us on Mars in 1975 and were killed by LBJ? Basically, one just injected water straight through a ultra high temperature nuclear reactor. The intense heat ripped the H2O molecules apart, creating a high pressure stream of H2 and O2 gas, which was the initial propulsion source. Then the H2 and O2 were reignited at the rear of the exhaust nozzle, like an afterburner of sorts. An engine the size of a VW could produce the same thrust as the entire space shuttle. Water, in the form of ice, is available throughout our solar system. I have at home, sitting on my shelf, the scale model we built of our autotonomous robotic nuclear powered water miner we proposed to NASA while I was at the University of Arizona. The spacecraft used onboard water to power her nuclear rocket engine, based after the NERVA and ROVER concepts. Upon landing at a promising site on an icy asteroid, a superheated steam drill, powered by superheated steam from the reactor, drilled through the crust, the steam melted the ice, the water was sucked up into the water storage tank, when the tank was full, the spacecraft tookoff back to her homebase, using a small portion of the water she just harvested to get there through her nuclear rocket engine. Milton Schick 1964 442 Cutlass [EMAIL PROTECTED]
