Here's a copy of what I sent to the list 12/15/06 :
From the 12/07/06 issue of Hemmings eWeekly email newsletter, under the Legislation heading: 'The debate over the appropriate uses of automobiles isn't new. In fact, what might be the most famous of all words on the subject were uttered in Congress over 130 years ago... “A new source of power...called gasoline has been produced by a Boston engineer. Instead of burning the fuel under a boiler, it is exploded inside the cylinder of an engine. The dangers are obvious. Stores of gasoline in the hands of people interested primarily in profit would constitute a fire and explosive hazard of the first rank. Horseless carriages propelled by gasoline might attain speeds of 14 or even 20 miles per hour. The menace to our people of vehicles of this type hurtling through our streets and along our roads and poisoning the atmosphere would call for prompt legislative action even if the military and economic implications were not so overwhelming... [T]he cost of producing [gasoline] is far beyond the financial capacity of private industry... In addition, the development of this new power may displace the use of horses, which would wreck our agriculture.” Horseless Carriage Committee, U. S. Congressional Record, c. 1875
- By David B. Traver Adolphus'

Sounds kind of like the current debate over Hydrogen...

krw
On Dec 21, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Infinite Space Systems, Inc. wrote:

Kevin,

Okay, did I miss something? What was the urban legend quoted from the bogus "Congressional Horseless Carriage Commission" that Hemmings published in the
previous issue?

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
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Subject: RE: Everything new is old, or, nothing new under the sun.


Looks like Hemmings (and through them, me) got taken by an urban legend:
http://www.hemmings.com/newsletter/newsletter.html?
volume=2&issue=27&id=831&refer=news&emlid=123347#831

"Horseless Carriage Committee report an urban myth
Last week, we quoted the congressional Horseless Carriage Committee,
supposedly of 1875. Were we a little skeptical of the source? Sure, and we did scour the Congressional Record of the time for a reference, and couldn't find it, but then, the Record is a little spotty. At worst, we thought that maybe it came from later on, you know, when the internal
combustion engine actually became common, say  from 1895 or so.

Reader Chuck Picciuti was also looking for the source of this, and we
suggested that the only way to verify or disprove this account would be to dive into the published volumes of the Record at his local Federal
Depository. Chuck actually had the time and inclination to go  to the
Public Services Division of the Law Library of Congress, and this is what
they told him:

“This is, in fact, an urban legend. We checked ‘Committees in the U.S.
Congress,’ published by CQ Press and verified that there never  was a
‘Horseless Carriage Committee.’ We also checked the Congressional Record Index (indexing debate in congress), the Congressional Hearings Index and the U.S. Serial Set, which indexes congressional reports and documents,
and found no references. Indeed,  the terms ‘gasoline’ or ‘horseless
carriage’ do not even appear in these sources for this time period. We also checked these sources using the terms ‘automobile’ and ‘petroleum’
and again found no  references for this time period.

"We also believe this statement is anachronistic. In 1876, Nicholas Otto of Germany invented and built the first gas motor engine and then built it into a motorcycle. Subsequently, in 1885, Karl Benz designed and built the first practical automobile to be powered by an internal combustion engine. The first gasoline-powered automobile built in the United States in 1891 by John Lampert was a three- wheeled motor vehicle. The first U.S.
patent for a gasoline-powered  automobile was issued in 1895, and the
first U.S. company to manufacture automobiles was founded in 1896 by the Duryea brothers. For additional information, click here, or click here
for a brief  history of gasoline."

We hope this sets the record straight on this oft-quoted, totally
fabricated bit of history.
- By David Traver Adolphus"

On digest mode, so I'm a little slow...

Kevin Wright
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Snoopy: 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe - It wants to be a W-31! And have EFI, 4-wheel discs, a 6-speed, a turbo or two... :) ...and a '71 Holiday Coupe less engine/transmission for sale - it'll be parts if someone doesn't buy it!

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