2015-02-07 14:51 GMT+01:00 symbianflo <[email protected]>: > > Il 07/02/2015 14:05, Per Øyvind Karlsen ha scritto: > > .... > >> Undocumented features don't get used. In my short experience > > > > what???? > In your what experience ? Muhahahahahah , that's really nice > > of rpm I have seen countless fragments >> beginning with % which I have absolutely no idea what they do. >> Now you may say that I should find out :) well one can but the amount of >> time spent doing so can be prohibitive. >> >> > There's tons of examples spread around in spec files, many people has > succesfully figured them out and adopted them, most of features are fairly > intuitive, and for the trigger implementation it's been documented for > several years under /usr/share/doc/rpm/triggers (trigger implementation in > rpm is nothing new, the only new thing about it is support for triggering > on paths and also triggers for pre- & posttrans.) > > But there is the "dark side of the moon" , too...many people has > successfully figured them out in the very "don't do this to the rpm" way, > by using the template/example specs according to weather or something > very difficult to understand... > > > While I'm not trying to boast about the large amount of software I write > for this distribution compared to pretty much anyone else, it does take up > a lot of time, time others could contribute their help as a community > efforts on helping writing documentation for the work I produce. > And as I already said, the examples you'll find in spec files throughout > the distro are fairly self-explanatory, whileas I have no problem > answering questions for anyone who would do the kind effort of helping out > documenting packaging policies, functionality, new features and what not, > along the same lines as for the most content that the wiki consists of.. > > > If I were to document all policies, new functionality, and what not on > all the software I'm developing in the context of this distro, that would > be an incredibly unfair share of workload.. > > By comparison, I'm *quite* sure Panu isn't actively documenting > everything relating to rpm on the fedora wiki... > > -- > Regards. > Per Øyvind > > > _______________________________________________ > OM-Cooker mailing > [email protected]http://ml.openmandriva.org/listinfo.cgi/om-cooker-openmandriva.org > > I really think that the best way find your own way around packaging is > the old MDV way... I know ,sad but truth... > meaning a senior packager that can follow the newbies development, I know > that we don't have man power for this > but this is the safest and best way to have a new generation of -not that > bad- packagers... > Now you all can jump on my back , but deep inside all old packagers know > very well that > I might have right.... > So investing the time in following the new packagers can slow down OMA's > development , for time being, but > instead we can have another Hannula, Wang, Bero, Castro, POK a.s.o. ... > All I'm asking here is how much of your time dedicated to OMA you''ll be > agree to spend in this boring > rising a new generation of packagers? > ( It's logical that I'm asking the senior packagers) > I'm all happy about tutoring and educatig new packagers, and have done my fair share of recruitment, so feel free to come to me with any issues you might have, it's just as I explained in some previous post, I have severe difficulties writing long articles and what not due to health issues... But if anyone picks up the initiative and takes a stab at starting it, I'll try my best contributing every here and here, it's just the matter of writing longer articles from scratch etc. that I find far more overwhelming than writing tons of code..
So my offer stands, for anyone who might have any questions or would like some tutoring wrt. packaging, I'm usually quite willing, friendly and good at tutoring provided I'm available and have the time though. :) --- Regards, Per Øyvind
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