Cutting to the chase, my point here is that literature never made a
packager , on the other hand
tutoring a beginner is pretty much more helpful and useful ,
and thanks a lot for your offer , I'll might take advantage of it someday.
Il 07/02/2015 15:05, Per Øyvind Karlsen ha scritto:
2015-02-07 14:51 GMT+01:00 symbianflo <[email protected]
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Il 07/02/2015 14:05, Per Øyvind Karlsen ha scritto:
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Undocumented features don't get used. In my short experience
what????
In your what experience ? Muhahahahahah , that's really nice
of rpm I have seen countless fragments
beginning with % which I have absolutely no idea what they do.
Now you may say that I should find out :) well one can but
the amount of time spent doing so can be prohibitive.
There's tons of examples spread around in spec files, many people
has succesfully figured them out and adopted them, most of
features are fairly intuitive, and for the trigger implementation
it's been documented for several years under
/usr/share/doc/rpm/triggers (trigger implementation in rpm is
nothing new, the only new thing about it is support for
triggering on paths and also triggers for pre- & posttrans.)
But there is the "dark side of the moon" , too...many people has
successfully figured them out in the very "don't do this to the
rpm" way,
by using the template/example specs according to weather or
something very difficult to understand...
While I'm not trying to boast about the large amount of software
I write for this distribution compared to pretty much anyone
else, it does take up a lot of time, time others could contribute
their help as a community efforts on helping writing
documentation for the work I produce.
And as I already said, the examples you'll find in spec files
throughout the distro are fairly self-explanatory, whileas I
have no problem answering questions for anyone who would do the
kind effort of helping out documenting packaging policies,
functionality, new features and what not, along the same lines as
for the most content that the wiki consists of..
If I were to document all policies, new functionality, and what
not on all the software I'm developing in the context of this
distro, that would be an incredibly unfair share of workload..
By comparison, I'm *quite* sure Panu isn't actively documenting
everything relating to rpm on the fedora wiki...
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I really think that the best way find your own way around
packaging is the old MDV way... I know ,sad but truth...
meaning a senior packager that can follow the newbies development,
I know that we don't have man power for this
but this is the safest and best way to have a new generation of
-not that bad- packagers...
Now you all can jump on my back , but deep inside all old
packagers know very well that
I might have right....
So investing the time in following the new packagers can slow down
OMA's development , for time being, but
instead we can have another Hannula, Wang, Bero, Castro, POK
a.s.o. ...
All I'm asking here is how much of your time dedicated to OMA
you''ll be agree to spend in this boring
rising a new generation of packagers?
( It's logical that I'm asking the senior packagers)
I'm all happy about tutoring and educatig new packagers, and have done
my fair share of recruitment, so feel free to come to me with any
issues you might have, it's just as I explained in some previous post,
I have severe difficulties writing long articles and what not due to
health issues...
But if anyone picks up the initiative and takes a stab at starting it,
I'll try my best contributing every here and here, it's just the
matter of writing longer articles from scratch etc. that I find far
more overwhelming than writing tons of code..
So my offer stands, for anyone who might have any questions or would
like some tutoring wrt. packaging, I'm usually quite willing, friendly
and good at tutoring provided I'm available and have the time though. :)
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