Hi,

User's Systems, Users decision ..
You can not easy go on and make an choice for the System owner, maybe it
is able for add in the Menu an Button, or on Desktop an button with "System Update" but don't go in the direction, it can do, we do it easy.. NOPE, this is an Case of
"boa we can do everything, we make it easy" (i know, you have ask, the idea)
but you don't think on the Experience Users, where want make by self and
want have under Control what's going on.
So, no, do not dare yea' *s*
System things where must work, must work, and make work, but be aware by
System upgrades or easy configuration where be not Standard..
Easy add something, and we have an trouble in the Mirror and so(we had already)
no, bad idea .. imho.. but well meant, but bad idea ..

but if you make it right.. setting up an systemrecovery point, like in windows, what's allready work..
also an button ? Setting up an RPM-Recovery point ? So 2 Button's
for able later,
urpmi --recovery-listing (listing recoverypoints)
urpmi --recover (recover the date or by no. of the recovery )

with this is later possible to recover the rpm-configuration and storing the well working rpm's

but an auoupdate in the systemd .. scares/discourages every experienced user from ..

best regards
Blacky


Am 20.04.2015 um 11:02 schrieb Tomasz Gajc:
Hi,

these days with all that fancy systemd stuff like services or timer, it is easy to automate some processes.

I was thinking about running urpmi as systemd service triggered by a timer (X times per day/week/month).

What are benefits or having urpmi as a daemon ?

1. Smooth upgrade

As urpmi is running by mdkonline, rpmdrake or in graphical console, some gig updates may break current session and user will end in broken system.

2. Ease upgrade

I think this will help with KDE4 -> Plasma5 update, as when installing new desktop environment may cause X11 session to die, for certain when switching to from X11 to Wayland.


What urpmi is missing ?

Urpmi does not use D-BUS or any IPC (mdkonline is not that kind) that will help users to interact with urpmi running as a systemd service.


There is even more safe way to perform updates with using http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/SystemUpdates/ but currently this does not work, and i'm trying to figure it out what is missing here.

WDYT ?



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