Howard,

Thank you for your questions and concerns.

Would you mind proposing an improvement proposal to address your concerns? For 
example,

-          A model representing a relationship of abstraction rather than 
aggregation (to address your first concern)?

-          More specifically, a model to improve RCGC (or alternative of RCGC) 
to address your exemplary concern?

-          An improvement model (or an alternative model) of resource slices to 
address your second concern?

Look forward to your proposal of improvement.
Thanks

Bin

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Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] [modeling][cloud infrastructure]

Hi Arun and all,

Sorry for the late response, I just want to re-state my concern during the conf 
call earlier on the mailing-list.

My first concern is that for the data modeling, we should adopt a common 
denominator of different VIM implementations. This means each concept defined 
in the data model here should be able to correctly mapped to various VIM 
implementations within scope. Moreover, a good data model should represent a 
relationship of abstraction rather than aggregation.

Take Resource Cluster Group Class for example, it merely represents an 
arbitrary aggregation of the Resource Cluster Group which means this concept 
does not provide any abstraction over underlying resource concept. Another 
problem is that only VMware implementation has a nicely mapped corresponding 
concept to RCGC, whereas in OpenStack it is just obscurely mapped to "a set of 
host-aggregates".

And if you remove the RCG point in the diagram provided in [0], you can see 
that no major connection will be disrupted, which also proves as a leaf node it 
is not a necessary one.

RCGC is something I would recommend we avoid for the data modeling of 
multicloud.

Secondly, I'm concerned with the concept of resource slice. Again it seems very 
arbitrarily crafted as a subset of resource (which again I fail to see an 
abstraction relationship but an aggregation one). It would be great if this 
concept is necessary then we have a very good detailed explanation of why we 
need it.

[0]https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Cloud+Infrastructure+Aggregate+Representation+Classes<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_display_DW_Cloud-2BInfrastructure-2BAggregate-2BRepresentation-2BClasses&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6qPcDOqMgwf1K_r6YIIHhw&m=b0jFV3nPUvLDLzEEih-QNhYmXbguWJjDy4qvLenPCxE&s=dVt4smJlK6WgC6oLSpR9WJ_voytVjCOJBx2YuL4r33s&e=>



On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:26 AM, denghui (L) 
<denghu...@huawei.com<mailto:denghu...@huawei.com>> wrote:
Hello modelers,

We are hoping that  people could raise the discussion point before next Tuesday 
modeling call in this list or wiki page, we will limit one point discussion 
time during our next call.

Thanks a lot

DENG Hui

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Subject: [onap-discuss] [modeling][cloud infrastructure]



The Wiki pages for Cloud Infrastructure Modeling in general:
https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=33065694<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D33065694&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6qPcDOqMgwf1K_r6YIIHhw&m=b0jFV3nPUvLDLzEEih-QNhYmXbguWJjDy4qvLenPCxE&s=JG1DWSVpQE8Dn473NJM79sLHMYu_v5IgC6uxLYpmWuk&e=>
and for Cloud Aggregation Classes:
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Cloud+Infrastructure+Aggregate+Representation+Classes<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_display_DW_Cloud-2BInfrastructure-2BAggregate-2BRepresentation-2BClasses&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6qPcDOqMgwf1K_r6YIIHhw&m=b0jFV3nPUvLDLzEEih-QNhYmXbguWJjDy4qvLenPCxE&s=dVt4smJlK6WgC6oLSpR9WJ_voytVjCOJBx2YuL4r33s&e=>

The presentation used in today’s (Tuesday May 22) Modeling Committee call is on 
the second page.


-Arun


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