Thanks, that is very clear and helpful.

I just have one more question. In the case where the messages are
accumulating on the queue in the VES, is that in memory? So if the memory
state is lost, then the messages are lost?

I will be running this in an environment without full production support,
so I figuring out some failure cases.

Thanks,
William

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 5:22 PM VENKATESH KUMAR, VIJAY <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just to clarify, the acknowledgement from VESCollector primarily indicates
> the message was received and validated in collector but not status of
> complete processing (by collector/DCAE or rest of ONAP components for that
> matter).
>
>
>
> As VES entails support for multiple domains/topics and batch mode, the
> response to VNF (or PNF) was strictly decoupled from rest of collector
> processing by design. We have also seen instances of DMAAP connection being
> lost temporarily (either network or dmaap being down) during which
> collector continues to receive events and queue them. Once connection is
> restored, VESCollector will forward them to appropriate topics. By handling
> these transient issue, we are avoiding impact on xNF’s (otherwise xNF’s
> will need queue and resend events). On typical production setup, the FS
> will be monitored and should be caught and addressed before
> application/pods are crashing.  DMaap being critical component in ONAP,
> expectation is it will be highly-available and guarantee delivery for
> subscribers (once messages are published into MR topic by collector)
>
>
>
> Hope this clarifies.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Vijay
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On
> Behalf Of *William Kurkian
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2018 2:23 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [onap-discuss] DCAE event Guaranteed Delivery
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I've been experimenting with having a PNF send event information to the
> DCAE, the VES specifically, in order to get it on the DMaaP. I've noticed a
> failure scenario when the machine runs out of disk. A number  of pods start
> failing, including the DMaaP message-router and kafka.
>
>
>
> The problem I see is that, if the VES Pod is still running, it returns a
> 200 Ok to any messages I send it, despite the DMaaP not running.
>
>
>
> This worries me because in a production system, faults could occur that
> prevent messages from being deliverable, and certain events are
> critical(alarms) and need to be guaranteed. Could someone help me
> understand what is going on here?
>
>
>
> From what I see, the VES has a queue it puts the messages are on, but from
> that point I don't see that I can depend on that for messages to survive in
> case of things like reboot.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> William Kurkian
>
> 
>

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