Can we say following:

-        Any dependency management among the workloads of a VF & VNF is 
responsibility of VNFM, Multi-Cloud or the site orchestrator (such as Openstack 
or K8S)

-        Any dependency management across VNFs in services is responsibility of 
SO (This is not an issue today as each VNF/VF is brought up independently from 
VID, as you said)

Thanks
Srini


From: Kumar Skand Priya, Viswanath V 
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 11:12 AM
To: Addepalli, Srinivasa R <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [E] [Onap-arc] Dependency management across workloads within VNF 
and across VNFs of a service

Hi Srini,

My 2 cents:

I have raised this question much earlier during Amsterdam & Beijing DDF. The 
answer I got from SDC & SO PTL is "Not yet". As of now today, latest SDC is 
having a capability to specify dependency between VF-Module as part of Network 
Service Design. SO doesn't regard dependency & sequencing at all. As a matter 
of fact, when you instantiate via VID, the admin has to manually add Vf-Modules 
as part of service instantiation, which makes is completely manual and throw 
the burden of dependency management to human actors.

This is exactly the motivation behind model driven orchestration. On the 
SO-BPMN side, similar functionality could be achieved by using techniques like 
"Orchestration Hooks", like Pre & Post instantiation hooks. From my enquiry 
with SO and CDS folks, this is what I learnt : There is a WIP item that is 
targeting to develop these hooks inside SO, with the combination of CDS 
controller plugins. Perhaps SO and CDS folks can comment on the same.

BR,
Viswa

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:01 PM Srini 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

I came across a requirement where an application contains multiple workloads, 
say A, B, C and D.
Say that B and C depend on A to be ready and hence should be brought up only 
after A is up and running.
Say that D depends on B and C and hence should be brought up only after B and C 
are up and running.

I understand that in TOSCA, there is a way to create relationships and have a 
way to insert scripts to check for readiness. So, I guess this is taken care in 
use cases that are described using TOSCA.

My question is with respect to SDC+SO+MC kind of orchestration. Is that 
possible in this combination? If so, any pointers are appreciated.

Thanks
Srini




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