Thanks for the work on this Ranny. The concern and effort that has gone into the survey are much appreciated. The fundamental questions regarding timely end-user input and requirements and an understanding of what we need to build are critically important to all of us. I'd like to try again to communicate what I had difficulty getting across on that TSC call a couple of weeks ago however.
The key concerns being raised by the community were already being discussed at the LFN Board level. I brought that up repeatedly. Phil had previously circulated a survey with the Operators on the Board well before the community decided an ONAP survey to the operators was the thing to do. The results of Phil's survey were reviewed with the Board last week at ONS and there are follow-ups in the works. As many are aware, Phil has also been working diligently to address some of the gaps for input and strategy across all LFN Projects. This was also discussed at the Board meeting and a workgroup comprised of Board member operators and vendors was established to nail down that structure in short order. ONAP is the first target of the workgroup's attention. Several people on the original TSC call pointed out there has not been any movement with the LFN-EUAG yet, which is both true and unfortunate. I am the PM responsible for the LFN-EUAG. The lack of progress falls directly on me. The ONAP community was expected to be in a far more self-operational state by now and I would be focusing some attention on the LFN-EUAG. I am hopeful that progress on both fronts can be made shortly. Getting back to what triggered the initial discussion was the Usecase subcommittee's concern that calls for operator input are going unanswered. From my point-of-view this is because no one is really signed up to provide it. What folks are referring to as "The ONAP EUAG" were just a few folks hand-picked by the former Chair to provide input. This was done with the best of intentions, but it was completely informal. An EUAG was never formally established by the TSC. There was there was no charter presented, there was no subcommittee proposal, there was no vote on setting up such a group. From that perspective we can only be upset with ourselves if no formal input from "The EUAG" is coming in. We can send this survey to the LFN-EUAG, but a review of its Charter by the TSC is probably in order. In addition, I'm sure you would all agree that the LFN-EUAG needs to be operational before we hit them up with a survey out of the blue. I am neither encouraging the community to, nor discouraging the community from setting up an ONAP specific EUAG if one is desired. If the TSC approves an operational charter for such a group and secures committed membership, any survey should probably be distributed by under the auspices of that structure. …and before anyone mentions it, YES, I am keenly aware of the timing of input that is necessary for us to maintain our current release cadence for Dublin. There were two key themes that I kept hearing over and over at ONS; Stability and modularity, the latter almost always mentioned in the context of eliminating hard wired usecases which was a turn-off to many implementers. Perhaps that should be evaluated as a potential release theme. All of the things above are hard decisions TSC needs to assess in the context of time, content and quality of the next release. Thanks! -kenny From: <[email protected]> on behalf of ramki krishnan <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:01 AM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] EUAG Survey Thanks Ranny, nice survey. It may be worth adding another line as follows under “Please choose which best describes your company’s strategic approach to ONAP” We are committed to leverage some components of ONAP for our network service. We are currently making some progress towards this. Thanks Ramki From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Haiby, Ranny (Nokia - US/San Jose USA) Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [onap-tsc] EUAG Survey Hi, Following a discussion on the TSC weekly call two weeks ago I started creating a survey that will be used to solicit EUAG input to ONAP. With the help of several community members we now have a first draft of the survey available for review: https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/EUAG+Survey Please feel free to use the comments section of the wiki page for any suggestions for additions or modifications. Ranny. _. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#3816): https://lists.onap.org/g/onap-tsc/message/3816 Mute This Topic: https://lists.onap.org/mt/26654273/21656 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.onap.org/g/onap-tsc/leave/2743226/1412191262/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
