I plan to set up a meeting early next week with the ONAP TSC to discuss. There seems to be different opinions/answers on what this request is all about.
Regards, Chaker From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 8:50 AM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org Cc: Casey Cain <cc...@linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Review Tungsten Fabric proposal (formely OpenContrail) #tac We are in the review cycle for the TF official inclusion and the ONAP TSC Chair votes for the ONAP community on the LFN TAC so ... Chaker volunteered to do the analysis for ONAP Community on how we should vote. I think this come up next Wednesday for a vote in LFN TAC. Brian From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>> On Behalf Of Chaker Al Hakim Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 6:44 PM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> Cc: Casey Cain <cc...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:cc...@linuxfoundation.org>> Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Review Tungsten Fabric proposal (formely OpenContrail) #tac Thanks Phil. Perhaps we should put this effort on hold until everyone has had a chance to weigh in on it. Regards, Chaker From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Phil Robb Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 1:36 PM To: onap-tsc <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>> Cc: Casey Cain <cc...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:cc...@linuxfoundation.org>> Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Review Tungsten Fabric proposal (formely OpenContrail) #tac Hello All: A slight correction to Mazin's input. The request isn't associated with TF changing it's state. This is actually part of the "re-induction" review. When TF went through it's original induction earlier in the year (starting in March), the Governing Board requested that an Induction Process be created and documented for any/all new projects seeking to join LFN so that all reviews would be consistent and equitable. The TAC at that time requested to lead the creation of that process from the Governing Board (GB) and that request was granted. The TAC then determined that it would take until September or so before it would be complete with the creation of the process. That left the TF project in limbo for a signification period of time. So the GB in June "Conditionally Approved" the induction of TF into LFN with the requirement that TF go through a re-induction once the Induction process was in place. The TAC finished their work and produced the following two artifacts to guide inductions [0][1]. The TF project has filled out the Data Template here [2]. I'm not sure exactly what the TAC's request is to the ONAP community. For that, I defer to Casey and Cathrine as I was unable to attend the meeting where this request was apparently made. I hope this helps. [0]https://logs.opendaylight.org/releng/vex-yul-odl-jenkins-1/lfn-process-rtd-verify-any/26/html/lifecycle/project_data_template.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__logs.opendaylight.org_releng_vex-2Dyul-2Dodl-2Djenkins-2D1_lfn-2Dprocess-2Drtd-2Dverify-2Dany_26_html_lifecycle_project-5Fdata-5Ftemplate.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=e3d1ehx3DI5AoMgDmi2Fzw&m=bxr2kSi8nhOWNIi0jqhp-SUJAqLB9PN47pWlPIdd_M0&s=-GZ7ye4PDVDdZHfgbzulOT8Wq87SAJwg9bdTvy5bI4o&e=> [1]https://logs.opendaylight.org/releng/vex-yul-odl-jenkins-1/lfn-process-rtd-verify-any/26/html/principles.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__logs.opendaylight.org_releng_vex-2Dyul-2Dodl-2Djenkins-2D1_lfn-2Dprocess-2Drtd-2Dverify-2Dany_26_html_principles.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=e3d1ehx3DI5AoMgDmi2Fzw&m=bxr2kSi8nhOWNIi0jqhp-SUJAqLB9PN47pWlPIdd_M0&s=3JjFl4A4DL9r8N4aJNsR6mnwTSC4CqFlSKGa4cYN2Yw&e=> [2]https://gerrit.linuxfoundation.org/infra/#/c/12880/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gerrit.linuxfoundation.org_infra_-23_c_12880_&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=e3d1ehx3DI5AoMgDmi2Fzw&m=bxr2kSi8nhOWNIi0jqhp-SUJAqLB9PN47pWlPIdd_M0&s=9pFfLgxdytpVt209u6rzqU9sg_0iUWyoeg7odEoSD-I&e=> Best, Phil. On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:57 AM Chaker Al Hakim <chaker.al.ha...@huawei.com<mailto:chaker.al.ha...@huawei.com>> wrote: Thanks Mazin, that’s helpful. So the question now seems to be more related to the process of promoting a project from incubation state to become a fully approved LFN project. If that’s the case then we would need to also look at 1) how other projects were promoted in the past, perhaps we can use (Akraino or Acumos as an example) 2) funding and resources and 3) impact on overall budget. The other option is to collectively decide that a new process is needed to address this case, and to also address similar cases in the future, and would be considered a LFN governance item that the GB should take up Regards, Chaker From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>] On Behalf Of GILBERT, MAZIN E (MAZIN E) Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 8:17 AM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> Cc: Casey Cain <cc...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:cc...@linuxfoundation.org>> Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Review Tungsten Fabric proposal (formely OpenContrail) #tac Chaker, My understanding that TF is an incubation project. Remember projects have different lifecycle under LFN. TF needs to become an approved full project for it to be like ONAP. Phil or Kenny can provide the official position here. Mazin On Nov 1, 2018, at 1:03 AM, Chaker Al Hakim <chaker.al.ha...@huawei.com<mailto:chaker.al.ha...@huawei.com>> wrote: Hi Catherine, Srini and I briefly discussed this request at the Montreal F2f meeting. We both thought that TF is already a separate project under the LFN umbrella. Furthermore, I have seen some TAC budget slides recently that showed TF as a separate budget line item which, I believe, means that it is a already a separate project. Can we please get additional clarifications on this request so that we’re working the right action item. Or perhaps we can have a quick call with the LFN team to better understand the scope of this request. Thanks, Chaker From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Catherine LEFEVRE Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 12:27 PM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>; Casey Cain <cc...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:cc...@linuxfoundation.org>> Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Review Tungsten Fabric proposal (formely OpenContrail) #tac Good afternoon/morning Chaker, Srini, Casey, Thank you Chaker to take the lead on this action item. Thank you both for your feedback. The request from the TAC team was not to review the Tungsten Fabric proposal in the context of ONAP projects, but to review it as being part of LFN. Casey – feel free to add any comment in case of I have miscaptured the TAC request Many thanks & regards Catherine From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Chaker Al Hakim Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 6:12 PM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Review Tungsten Fabric proposal (formely OpenContrail) #tac Hi Srini, Thanks for your input.. I am actually very familiar with TF (Contrail) from my previous life. However, I did volunteer my time even though I have not had a chance to review the proposal. I plan to participate in the review, and I hope you will too, either as a lead or as a participant as I do have both an ISP view and a vendor view on this topic. Regards, Chaker From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Srini Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:59 AM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Review Tungsten Fabric proposal (formely OpenContrail) #tac Hi Catherine and Chaker, My 2 cents. There are two contexts I guess feedback is given. Usage of TF in ONAP: TF in many ways similar to ODL in terms of role and capabilities. ODL is chosen by ONAP as base for CCSDK/SDNC/APPC. Is TAC asking to see whether TF can be leveraged by ONAP in place of ODL? Using TF in sites as site level SDN controller : In case of Openstack based sites, it is really up to the site administrator and from ONAP perspective it is transparent as ONAP leverages Neutron API. In case of K8S based sites, there is some support required in ONAP (Multi-Cloud) based on SDN controller chosen at the site. K8S Multi-Cloud intend to support OVN, flannel, SRIOV-NIC based networks initially (R4) and get community feedback on other networking controllers (Yes, we see requests coming to us to support Contiv and TF, but the decision to be made at right time based on interest from SPs on the site level SDN controllers). Thanks Srini From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Chaker Al Hakim Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:41 AM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Review Tungsten Fabric proposal (formely OpenContrail) #tac Hi Catherine, Please count me unless you have found a lead already. Thanks, Chaker From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> [mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Catherine LEFEVRE Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 5:07 AM To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> Subject: [onap-tsc] Review Tungsten Fabric proposal (formely OpenContrail) #tac Importance: High Dear TSC (or proxy), We have been requested by the TAC to review the Tungsten Fabric proposal. I have added the links related to this proposal to the JIRA TSC-41 task. I need somebody to take the lead regarding this activity. Can one of you assign this task to herself/himself while the others can post any feedback to the JIRA ticket? thanks Due Date: Nov 5th, 2018 End of your Day? https://jira.onap.org/browse/TSC-41<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jira.onap.org_browse_TSC-2D41&d=DwMFAw&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=c31OYuaPawMl_ySS_voXJQ&m=U_NsekOwRbMcph1s8P0KcYAALS-fkIUd2budq1xYaBw&s=uLLE0jj_UN5plGEcC_FPauNcM_yVeCyhXLG6fjTVjd0&e=> Thanks in advance for your support. Many thanks & regards Catherine Catherine Lefèvre AVP Software Development & Engineering AT&T Labs – Network Cloud & Infrastructure D2 Platform & Systems Development ECOMP/RUBY/SPP-NEAM-Appl. 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