It seems like we're mixing up two different processes:  new project vs new
requirement.  So, I think that the first thing to agree on is whether we're
talking about a new project or a new requirement.  Recall that the original
Portal project was a "project" not a requirement.

However, if it is a "requirement" (not a project), then I agree with
Byung's comments.

David

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:30 AM Byung-Woo Jun <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> Here is my two cents…
>
>
>
> To my understanding, Georg and DT proposed the Portal NG as *a PoC
> project in London*. He presented the Portal NG PoC architecture to ARCCOM
> and he got no objection.
>
>
>
> David McBride would know better, but in my opinion, the PoC can be handled
> informally, still creating PoC REQ, Epic, User Stories, etc. Creating the
> Portal NG repo for PoC needs to be discussed.
>
> Once DT implements the Portal NG, they can present its capabilities to
> ONAP community and collect feedback. Once the Portal NG contribution
> becomes official, then, we can go thru a formal procedure. At this time, we
> don’t need to appoint PTL, committers and others because most likely, the
> PoC will handled by DT.
>
>
>
> One thing from the SECCOM discussion (Amy, Pawel and others)… Since the
> current Portal is inactive and will go thru unmaintained project process,
> we don’t want to mix the current Portal with the Portal NG (e.g., code,
> repo…). The Portal NG is a new thing.
>
>
>
> Since the Portal NG would replace the current inactive Portal, its
> position would be similar in the ONAP architecture, with new/enhanced
> features. It security handling is already discussed at ARCCOM.
>
>
>
> This would be a good discussion at the TSC.
>
>
>
> BR,
>
> Byung
>
>
>
> *From: *Paweł Pawlak <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 7:44 AM
> *To: *Rajewski Łukasz <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *Fiedler, Marc <[email protected]>, Geissler, Andreas <
> [email protected]>, 'David McBride' <
> [email protected]>, Riehl, Andre <[email protected]>,
> Byung-Woo Jun <[email protected]>, Schweflinghaus, Georg <
> [email protected]>, [email protected] <
> [email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *RE: Request for Telekom portal as PoC within ONAP
>
> Hi Łukasz,
>
> The process I found on the Wiki:
> https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Project+Proposal+Process+Overview
>
> I see that Georg prepared the proposal inline with this process:
>
> https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/PortalNG+Project+Proposal
>
> So I guess it is high time to book a slot for TSC meeting and present
> project. Please be aware that in order to speed up, it would be good to
> join TSC meeting either on 8th or 15th of December, later meetings this
> year are cancelled due to holidays season.
>
> I am not sure what kind of jira ticket Georg was asked to work on, I let
> Chaker and Byung to elaborate on that.
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> *From:* Rajewski Łukasz <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* wtorek, 6 grudnia 2022 12:04
> *To:* 'David McBride' <[email protected]>; Paweł Pawlak <
> [email protected]>
> *Cc:* Fiedler, Marc <[email protected]>; Geissler, Andreas <
> [email protected]>; Riehl, Andre <[email protected]>;
> Schweflinghaus, Georg <[email protected]>;
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Request for Telekom portal as PoC within ONAP
>
>
>
> *EXTERNAL MAIL: *[email protected]
>
> Dear Pawel, David,
>
>
>
> I am sorry but I do not understand the process that Georg has to follow to
> move the thing forward. Do we have to create formal REQ to initiate a new
> project? New Portal. I don’t see that standard REQ submissions process is a
> case in this situation. Is there procedure for new projects anywhere
> described? What Georg has to do to kick off the formal discussions.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Lukasz
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Georg
> via lists.onap.org
> *Sent:* Friday, December 2, 2022 8:40 AM
> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Cc:* Fiedler, Marc <[email protected]>; Geissler, Andreas <
> [email protected]>; Riehl, Andre <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [Onap-arc] Request for Telekom portal as PoC within ONAP
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> The request that I have put forward together with Andreas was to try out
> the Telekom portal as a PoC within ONAP. Statement in the TSC was “…to
> become a PoC the portal has to be onboareded as a complete project…”
>
>
>
> In the TSC I was told to go to the Arch, which I did. In the ArchCom (a
> few weeks ago) I was told to work on a jira ticket that I so far did not
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>
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>
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