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Who is Larry Rand?.  The thinking is sound and a good analysis.  We have
always needed the ground troops to get out the vote.  That holds true for
both major parties.
Duane M. Peterson
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From: "Jim Hanzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 11:17 AM
Subject: [Winona] Response to Mathematicians' remedies to electoral process


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>
> >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:06:11 -0600
> >
> >>
> >>Quinn,
> >>
> >>Interesting stuff, but I wonder about one section:  "If, as polls
showed,
> >>most Nader voters would have voted for Gore over Bush, then most of
those
> >>voters' second choices would have become votes for Gore. Under this
"single
> >>transferable vote'' system, Gore would have won."
> >>
> >>Nader's biggest votes came in states that were already in Gore's camp;
the
> >>closest Nader came to costing Gore a state was in Oregon, but I don't
know
> >>of any states that Bush won where a total of the Gore and Nader votes
> >>exceeded the Bush vote.  Do you?
> >>
> >>This idea, however, has been strongly promoted by the Democrats as a
whip
> >>to keep Green voters in the Democratic fold.
> >>
> >>The real reason that Gore and the Democrats have come this close to
losing
> >>was something far more embarrassing:  turnout.  The voting rate for
> >>Gore-Bush was a point LOWER than the over-before-it-was-over Clinton
> >>re-election campaign.  The traditional way for the GOP to win is to run
a
> >>boring campaign and keep turnout low; the way Dems win is to fan the
flames
> >>and get voter turnout high, especially in minority areas.  Gore's sheer
> >>dynamism and charisma coupled with his utterly fascinating talent at
> >>oration and media events failed to do this.
> >>
> >>One thing for certain: if Nader and Buchanan had been granted their
legal
> >>rights to be on t.v. debates, the election would have been different.
Bush
> >>and Gore both came off better than they should have, because each was
busy
> >>trying to be the other and confuse the voter in the middle into voting
for
> >>him.  This played into Bush's strategy by keeping the swing voters away
> >>from the polls on voting day; neither candidate was interesting to them,
> >>and they were too moderate to vote for Nader or Buchanan.
> >>
> >>All four candidates ran truly lousy campaigns, let's face it.  Gore was
> >>Bashful, Bush was Dopey,  Nader was Sneezy and Buchanan was Grumpy.
Only
> >>Bush took his home turf, so big surprise, it looks like he wins (had to
> >>steal Florida to do it, the nitwit).
> >>
> >>When "Big Jim" Thompson, Illinois' sexually adventurous former governor,
> >>was asked to name his crowning political achievement over four
consecutive
> >>terms as governor, he said, "I carried my precinct in all four
elections."
> >>He was not being flip; he is a true politician.  Gush and Bore are what
> >>your basic pinkie ring Bridgeport precinct captain would disdainfully
call
> >>"silk stocking" candidates -- too important to carry their own precinct.
> >>The Green Party, whose platform I like a lot, seems to be an entire
party
> >>of silk stockings devoid of any real precinct captains, who are the
people
> >>who win elections.  No real political activist likes working for silk
> >>stocking candidates.  If Al Gore can't carry his own precinct, he should
> >>not have declared.
> >>
> >>Larry Rand
> >>
>
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