[Winona Online Democracy]
When you rent a property it is usually your home and you should have privacy
in your home, the courts have said this. At school you are not at your home
you are using the schools property for your stuff, you are not renting the
locker. Students shouldn't be keeping any personal items in there locker
that need privacy. When I was in school if my locker was searched the only
thing they would have found was books, my jacket, ect... I never had any
thing to hide so I never minded if my locker was searched. I never expected
any privacy with my locker, I knew it could be searched at anytime. It also
made me feel safer because what if the kid next to me had a gun, maybe it
could be found in a search and prevent a later tragedy.
Ben Klinger
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From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Online Dem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Unreasonable searches
> [Winona Online Democracy]
>
> Does that not place the rights of a property owner above the rights of
> the citizen?
>
> Does that not take us back to an era when the people that held the purse
> strings where the ones with parcels of land?
>
> Legally it is ok, but should it be acceptable? No! Student lockers can
> be thought of in a way as rental property The standard for renting
> property is that the landlord my not legally search your property
> without prior notification. In some situations (depending on your lease)
> forbid the whole process. Of course, schools love to argue that they own
> the lockers; therefore, if they want to tear the door of they can.
> However that is not the case, they are only delegated by the people to
> take care of the locker.
>
> Why do school administrators need to be given SS like powers? Was there
> a war declared behind my back to justify such a preposterously absurd
> practice? MN law effectively allows school administrators to invoke
> martial law without any accountability or justification for their
> actions. Furthermore, if materials are confiscated, evidence procedures
> for school administrators are not the same as to what law enforcement is
> held to.
>
> It comes down to this, why so much power. Law enforcement has procedures
> to follow. Procedures are not ignored simply because they think someone
> will get shot. By ignoring the procedures a case in court will not hold
> water. If School administrators are going to get police like powers then
> Law enforcement-like procedures should follow.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2001, at 11:06 , Bernard Klinger wrote:
>
> > I think that the reason that the searches are ok in school lockers is
> > the fact that the lockers are the property of the school, not the
> > individual student.
>
> The word privacy Lost its meaning the day the NSA was founded. (Hello
> NSA computer that just picked this up.... did I hit one of your key
> phrases? Sorry, to waste your time, where you looking for a Chinese
> communication?)
>
> > Therefore the student is not guaranteed any right of privacy.
> >
> > Ben Klinger
>
> David Dittmann
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