Hi Christian, et al., On 2011-06-17, at 11:58 , Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> Hi Heiner, *, > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On 06/17/2011 04:42 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> On 06/17/2011 03:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf<[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200: >>> [...] >>>> I'm pretty >>>> sure they would have fixed this later. >>> >>> Later? I doubt it. >> >> Why? > > "later" is the answer for everything that is not going to happen. > "Later" was also the answer to the mailing-list archive URLs. > Same as "requirements" for Issues. > > But in the current case: There was absolutely no interest in the > problem itself. > > Anything that was related to infrastructure came to a halt and then > continues up till today to a almost non-bearable extent. Starting with > buildbots and buildmaster (both the software as well as the Mac > -hardware that was donated to the project and hosted at the former > Sun-Office in HH), continuing with the comparably tiny bugzilla issue, > did continue with the basically non-availablility of the > extensions-website, the unavailability of pootle and also includes the > always-has-been-a-topic of preserving mailinglist-URLs/having a way to > map old URLs to the new infrastructure. > So sorry if I don't really have trust in "later" arguments when it > comes to infrastructure that is in Oracle's governance/responsibility. > You have to beg for even getting an answer (and while the answer then > was "person who dealt with that stuff moved on/now has other tasks, so > no fix in sight" this is better than no reply at all. > And yes, now this is moot, however especially for the extensions and > pootle servers, "you" need to be a solution soon. > > And yes, you are right, of course I did knew about TDF at that time, > mixed things up here. > > And yes, I'm aware that the extensions site is hosted by OSUOSL, so I > cannot really blame "Oracle" but I also know that this is not a > for-free hosting, but that OSUOSL did receive compensation for running > the services (as I happened to be involved in approving this expense > in December 2009/January 2010 - and even if it was a one-time payment > of 5000 € only). But after all this doesn't matter, as all those who > have the corresponding contacts/those who could do something about it > happen to be Oracle employees, so the circle closes. Not so sure about that :-) I'm not an Oracle employee and have not been for some time now. I also am planning on going to Oscon, for the CLS (community leadership summit) and also for the summit on OOo, if that will take place. I can directly raise these issues with OSU OSL there, provided I'm adequately briefed on the issue. OOo still is around ;-) > > ciao > Christian cheers, Louis
