Re: User facing web items

[Reizinger Zoltán]

Hi Andy,

2011.06.18. 15:46 keltezéssel, Andy Brown írta:
Hi Zoltan,
Zoltan wrote:
2011.06.18. 1:33 keltezéssel, Andy Brown írta:
Hi Ross,

Ross Gardler wrote:
On 17 June 2011 00:00, Andy Brown<a...@the-martin-byrd.net> wrote:
I have seen references to "user facing" web items, web pages, wiki 
and
mailing list. What will happen to the forum at
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ ? It is an very useful
user
facing asset that I would hate to see lost. If it is transfered what
will
be require from those that provide assistance there? Will the
moderators be
required to committers? Thus requiring an iCLA?

There are many other things to consider in this question:

- will infra@ be willing to host an instance of the software
- can we migrate the content?
- is it under a suitable licence to allow migration
- is the forum approach the right solution today
- and many more issues

Ross


I know from conversations that the forum is hosted on Oracle servers,
in Germany, if I am not mistaken.
Yes.
I'm co-admin of Hungarian forum from start of HU user forum, and
volunteer from EN forum start.
The Admin is an employee of Oracle.
Half true. Oracle/Sun provides space in virtualized servers, if
something happens with servers which needs phiscally touch it, then
Oracle admin mange it.
All the other case the user forum admin Terry Ellison works, he manage
the common for all forums database and webserver, MySQL and phphBB 
3.0.x.
Language co-admins make language dependent work, works with spams, rouge
users, etc.
The Oracle only help us providing infrastructure (server space and
bandwith), not more.
The forums runs in common database and webserver.
The moderators are from all over and volunteers for the most part. If
it can not hosted on Apache servers then I am afraid that it will be
lost and all the help that it has for users.
If not Apache will support this, we needs to search founding and run in
other place to support users, which is our will.
"Is a forum the right solution today", good question but I have seen
flame wars break out over that very topic in some mailing list. I
prefer mailing list but understand why end users prefer a forum so I
would support us keeping it.
Users forums started before the TDF was formed, their mailing list and
forum discussions not problem for us, we support all OOo derivate
software users, to help them, if we can answer their problems.
Zoltan

Andy

Good to see you here. :)  Terry and I have been in contact an he 
corrected me on his role as Admin.  He also told me that the license 
for the Forums is Copyleft which, if I understand correctly will 
prevent them from being on ASF servers.  If they are part of the grant 
then I guess that could change.  I am looking as some alternate 
options in case ASF can not host the forums.
The forums have link to the terms of use: 
http://openoffice.org/terms_of_use
This link was on all the time while the forum runs.
For my best knowledge, never was problem wit that.

Now it is contain ASF 2.0 license for codes, I see no problems to licensing.
Usually no source codes submitted to forums.

Zoltan

Andy
(therabi)