Am 07/21/2011 03:16 AM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
Thanks for the info. Note that it would be helpful if people interested
in working with trademarks read the Apache policies, as well as our
growing list of FAQs:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/
Part of my strategy is to attempt to cover as many of the basic kinds of
uses with generic documentation, and to try to limit the number of
explicit agreements or specific grants that we give to third parties.
I.e. if we can clearly state in a policy that using our marks in manner
X is generally permissible, without having to fillin a webform or email
for written permission, it makes our life much, much simpler. There are
plenty of uses of trademarks that don't require any permissions and are
not infringing - otherwise, how could I order a Coke (or a Pepsi) to drink?
For things like journalists writing an article about Apache products, or
individuals with personal blogs who just want to link to the download
page for a product - I'd like to be able to point to a policy or FAQ
that notes if they do it appropriately, no explicit permission is required.
Obviously with the userbase and reach of OpenOffice.org, we need to
consider how to manage the kinds of requests and the load of requests
going forward, now that we're becoming Apache OpenOffice.
Is there already a list that names simple requests that doesn't need a
permission? We could create a new webpage on the Wiki or homepage as "I
want to use your trademark. What to do?" section.
Marcus
On 7/20/2011 9:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
Am 20.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
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Andrew (or whoever): how/when can we get the submissions to that
webform?
http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/surveys/index.php?sid=31881
I've contacted the person who I think was responsible before.
I'm actually wondering if and how we should review those, versus simply
asking people to start contacting ooo-dev@ about requests from the
Apache side.
That might depend on the number of requests that have accumulated in
recent weeks.
In particular, with the transfer of the OOo marks, how do we (as in,
this PPMC and trademarks@) handle any permissions or licensing of
"OpenOffice.org"? Especially since that mark primarily refers to a
product that we - the ASF - do not actually distribute?
Many of these request are sent by journalists (e.g. providing OOo as
part of an open source DVD as magazine add) and authors (e.g. screen
shots for a publication). Another large group are individual open source
enthusiasts who just want to put the OOo logo on their website to link
the download page. IMHO, it would be easiest to point everyone on this
list, let them briefly summarize their concern and then giving them a
preliminary permission. Next, they can send us the results of using the
OOo logo or trademark, so we can make a final decisions while having the
real context available.
best regards,
peter
- Shane
On 7/19/2011 12:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
On 7/18/2011 10:37 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
Hi,
I'm still getting requests now and again from persons who want to use
the trademark OpenOffice.org for various reasons. In former times I
have been pointing them to a web form that Oracle was providing. So,
my questions are:
- Is the OOo trademark already with Apache?
Oracle legal is currently working with ASF on the transfer.
- If yes, I recall I have to forward them to tradema...@apache.org,
right?
- If not, is Oracle still taking on such requests?
All of these types of requests are on hold at Oracle. The process
should
be moved over to Apache.
+ Do requesters still have to use the web form?
Or, is there any interims process?
Not at this time - and - this should make it over to the Apache side of
things in reasonably short order.
Best regards,
Peter
