Well, there are no mentors to tell them to put it on a public Forum.  It is not 
an Apache undertaking yet.  

I admire them for keeping this discussion off of the general boards because it 
would doubtless disturb those they serve as much as it disturbs people who 
watch us conduct ourselves here.

I don't suggest we change, *here*, because the rules are plain enough for 
anyone who cares to know what they are.

I have never been an active member on any public-facing forum system that did 
not have a structure such as that which has been described to us.  I had not 
remarked on it until now that there are questions about it.  I also only knew 
about it when I was granted administration privileges myself, sort of like 
being invited to be a committer here [;<).

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 08:52
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and 
volunteers

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Rory O'Farrell <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 10:45:31 -0400
> Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I don't think discussions about how the project is run is something
>> that we should be doing in private.  Discussing such matters, even if
>> strong opinions are raised, is the essence of transparency.  Remember,
>> controversial is not the same as confidential.  In Apache projects we
>> discuss non-confidential matters openly.
>
> As far as I recollect, the "private discussions" referred to were those 
> concerned with moderation decisions, which decisions were reviewed by the 
> volunteers on a private channel on the Forum.
>

Your information is incomplete then.  Earlier in the thread Terry said
that there were ongoing discussions in the private forum that
paralleled this discussion.  I assume you are aware of that thread?

> There are three private channels open to me on the 
> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ as a Volunteer - Delete Topics, 
> which is a holding channel to permit undeleting of a posting (held for three 
> days), EN Forum issues and "Server - Site Governance".  In these two latter 
> channels suggestions or queries were channeled to Terry concerning code 
> alteration and other technical matters, and governance queries were raised, 
> as, for example, review of suspicious activity of a given poster, or 
> reconsideration of the actions of a moderator. All other discussions take 
> place in public.
>
> --
> Rory O'Farrell <[email protected]>
>

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