On Sep 29, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:00:04 +0200 > Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]> wrote: > > <snipped - synopsis of the proposed move of forums to Apache> >> >> It is is still a confusing situation, and we finally started a draft >> of the necessary changes: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Changes+integrate+the+forums+into+the+AOOo+project >> but as you can see, it is incomplete and not yet voteable. Some more >> work is required. The offline time of the boards does not help, of >> course :( >> >> Hope I have expressed everything very well. > > Very well (and fairly) expressed, Christian. > > The comments by Peter Roelhofsen (floris_v on the forum) on the wiki page > cited above in general express the overall view of forum volunteers, I think; > we mostly feel that trying to impose the existing Apache structure on the > forms is overkill and may stifle it. I recommend that the comments on the > wiki page be carefully read; note that the forum is willing to modify its > structures to fit in with Apache, but there does not seem to be a similar > flexibility on the Apache side.
We are individuals and volunteers here and some of us were busy with our paying jobs when this all blew up on the ooo-dev ML a few weeks ago. Some may appear less flexible than others. We are waiting for an actual proposal. Given that http://ooo-forums.apache.org/ exists you can see that Apache Infrastructure has done everything needed. It is up to the project to maintain and administrate the forum VM. The technical key is the inclusion of someone to manage the instance as hosted by Apache. If the TDF is how the Forums wish to go then it is up to them how, once known AOOo is certainly happy to point to that location. > The forum downtime (which I hope is being worked upon) does not help us move > towards a decision. I would hope that the forum downtime will help the forum owners decide to actually do a move until then the "orphaned" machines in Oracle's Hamburg office are subject to whatever events happen without anyone watching. All we can do here is report it to our Oracle contact in California and wait while he finds someone with the spare cycles to go find out what happened and give the forum machine a "kick". Regards, Dave > -- > Rory O'Farrell <[email protected]>
