Dave, can you say more about what the OO.o staging server would hold? I might be thinking of something related, but not sure.
Is the idea to have a server ready with the static comment so the domain could be switched to it, and the non-static services switched in by then also. I was thinking dynamic properties might be swapped in on the live OO.o site and then they would still be spliced in when the static change-over happens. What is your thinking? I suppose part of what I mean by staging is both the places for stages and also the choreography that has the migration be as unnoticeable as possible. [Still thinking how to describe this so that those interested can help reality-test it and also do some contingency planning and triage as needed.] - Dennis (In my frightful moments, I think of this as disaster-recovery on a still-living complex site. Sort of like open-heart surgery, kidney transplant, and chemo all at once, in the dark.) -----Original Message----- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 15:52 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Status of migration of OOo domains? On Oct 11, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Shane, just to clarify a bit. As far as I know, the PPMC does not have the > keys, as it were, to the live OpenOffice.org site. Apparently someone does, > and some touch ups are made, but it is all sort of behind the scenes and, um, > not very transparent, especially since there is no archive or repository that > the PPMC has visibility into. Marcus is the only one I know of who has made changes to the existing OOo websites. I don't know if he has access to the site template. If Apache Infra makes progress on the JIRA issues I mentioned then I think that we can gain traction on moving the openoffice.org static website very soon. I'll flesh out a proposal on the CWiki in the next few days based on the various content we have accumulated. > However, there does need to be some lofting around what is a roadmap here, > and > how does the existing live site be staged (and users informed) for transition > of the properties under OpenOffice.org. > > I'm thinking on it. I am trusting that others with their hands on the knobs > and dials will also speak up on what they can do by way of preparation for > staging, and then staging. One of the JIRA issues was for a staging server for www.openoffice.org. If that is present MANY hands are enabled as the Apache CMS will work directly on the site. Regards, Dave > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shane Curcuru [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 13:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Status of migration of OOo domains? > > Heh, indeed, while I so completely disagree with Rob's style here that I > don't even know where to start, he does have a point in that things get > done in projects by people who actually do them. > > Wearing my mentor hat, my primary job is to encourage the community > around this project to grow in a healthy manner and do the things > themselves. So from my mentor hat perspective, I'm really not a very > good example in what I do. As a mentor, there are things where you > should "do as I say, not as I do", because part of the point of being a > mentor is to help *you* (as in the community) actually start doing things. > > ---- > > On the other hand, wearing my VP, Brand hat, I strongly urge the PPMC to > take action on my email, especially the points about ensuring some sort > of branding updates are done on existing openoffice.org websites. In > particular, I'm concerned about the non-code areas - fundraising, > leadership, marketing, and the like. I'd really like to see the PPMC > taking ownership and working out how they want to manage the transition > in ownership from all those web properties, but starting to at least > make some updates in place reflecting the future plans for the sites. > > If not, then yes, I will eventually get to it, and I will do the work > myself, unilaterally, as VP, Brand (i.e. not as a mentor on this project). > > It's inappropriate for the project to spend so long with so much > "orphan" content on oo.o sites, wherein it's kinda Oracle's (and is > perceived as dead by more people each day), and it's kinda ours (since > we have a transfer of the domains and marks). We need action on showing > the rest of the world where we're planning to go with this great big > brand and chunk of content we've inherited. > > - Shane
