+1 2011/10/13 Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Donald Harbison <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Well, you can take a look at http://projects.openoffice.org/ ...and see > > the > > structure of work division by project and the names of people who were > > associated with those projects in the past. > > > > There was an Engineering Steering Committee (ESC) where the Sun developer > > staff met with volunteers, but it was largely a Sun/Oracle led affair. > See: > > http://council.openoffice.org/esc/ > > "The responsibility of the ESC is as follows: > > > > - Provide advice on technical implementations in case of conflicting > > interests. > > > > It is not the forum for making technical decisions in general, this > remains > > in the responsibility of the project leads. > > > > - > > > > Their advice can be overruled by the Community Council." > > > > Since all the project leads were Sun/Oracle employees, the ESC was > intended > > to take input, but not necessarily follow it. > > > > TDF evolved it to look like: > > > > > http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/23/the-document-foundation-announces-the-members-of-the-engineering-steering-committee/ > > > > > > The Community Council charter is here: > > http://council.openoffice.org/councilcharter12.html ... > > > > Juergen Schmidt may be able to provide more insight here when he can > catch > > up to the list as he was a member of the CC. > > > > > i don't really want to comment on this because of my history. The general > idea and intention of the CC was good but in practise in was never able to > operate or run in the way it should. So let us focus on finding our own new > way... > > I am sure that over time we will find a way that is Apache conform and that > will reflect the way how we work here. Some kind of governance will > establish automatically in different areas. We will trust people who have > shown expertise in development and code questions, the same for people who > focus on documentation, on marketing, QA etc. We will simply trust lets > call > it working groups and will correct things if necessary or something fails. > > > Juergen > > > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Shane Curcuru <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > What's the best place to (quickly) learn just who was who and what > groups > > > did what in the previous OOo life at Oracle? > > > > > > I see things like Community council and Engineering steering council > and > > > lots of projects, but it's not clear yet how they were supposed to be > > > related or helped to manage each other. > > > > > > It might be helpful to work on some simple explanations/diagrams of how > > OOo > > > used to work, and then show how the new Apache OOo is working. > > > > > > I don't really think this will help. We have the project wiki > established > > with a proposed structure. What we haven't done so well is to produce a > > 'Welcome, start here' FAQ and so forth. Dennis offered the first blog > entry > > on that way back in July. > > > > I will offer to update that as soon as I get my credentials to Roller > from > > infra. > > > > /don > > > > > > > - Shane > > > > > >
