On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:34 PM, drew <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 15:15 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:44 PM, drew <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 14:26 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> <snip> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Hi Andrew -- >> >> > >> >> > I just forward the message I received from Rob in total to " >> >> > [email protected]". Got a return from SYMPA that the editors would >> >> > look at it. If you or anyone else knows some magic to push this through, >> >> > that would be great. The [email protected] has about 84000 users! >> >> > >> >> >> >> FYI, we currently have only 134 subscribers to the announce list. >> > >> > And the sky is blue - my suggestion use the website cut over for a >> > legitimate announce list class event - send to both the new and the old >> > announce list (assume and ask for it to be moderated onto the old one) - >> > put a copy to the blog, even if others a planning more extensive blog >> > posts - an extra simple post won't hurt. >> > >> >> It might make sense to webs site migration, along with all the other >> migration accomplishments as part of a general engagement with those >> users. Here's what we've done, here's what we are doing now, here's >> what to expect in 2012, here's where to find more info, etc. >> >> Remember, aside from a few hundred people (a relatively small number) >> most of the 84,000 subscribers to the announce list will be hearing >> about AOO for the first time. The initial note will be our >> re-introduction. > > right - which might be the spot where Grahams concerns start to kick > in.. just sayin'. > > I'm not sure from reading his posts if he is actually urging that we not > play this up for the moment, but delay till a release and by then to > have formulated and executed a more extensive re-branding...then again > I'm likely not fully interrupting his thoughts correctly, such is the > norm for written communications. > > So - in my head the answer for the moment is: keep it very simple - a > couple of paragraphs with the explicit aim of getting the reader to come > visit the new site (not so much a full overview of events) > - those interested can find the new communication channels on the new > web pages. > > maybe something a kin to - > ********** >
For all but 500 or so of the 84,000 this would be entirely without context. They would say, "Apache what? What the heck is a Podling?" Remember, the announce list is not a project community list so much it is an end user list. So we'll want to have a good model for what they know and what they don't know already. My guess -- and your guess is as good as mine -- is that they vaguely recalled reading something about LibreOffice, maybe something also about Apache. Maybe they recently received a note from TOO. They are soft on the details and a little bit confused. Your draft, on the other hand, would be perfect for sending to ooo-users, and other project lists where the subscribers are already "insiders" of one form or another. Another idea: if you think that know about our users and their perceptions is worth knowing rather than just guessing, we might want to conduct a survey of them, including a link to such a survey in our initial communication. -Rob > The Apache OpenOffice podling project management committee (PPMC) is > pleased to present a new home for the OpenOffice.org website. > > This could not have happened without the thoughtful dedication and > commitment from many of the members of the OpenOffice community, but > none more so then Dave Fisher, Kay Schenk, Gavin M. [not sure who all to > include here..help please] and the PPMC would like to specifically thank > these individuals. > > [and then another paragraph or two on general information] > > Start the new year right - come visit the new Apache OpenOffice project > home now! > > > ********** > > Best wishes, > > //drew > > > > >> >> -Rob >> >> >> > my .02 - >> > >> > @(Dave, Kay, Gaven, others all...) >> > The new site is really great... >> > >> > //drew >> > >> > >
