On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 15:52 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:34 PM, drew <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 15:15 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:44 PM, drew <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > On Wed, 2011-12-28 at 14:26 -0500, Rob Weir wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> <snip> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Hi Andrew -- > >> >> > > >> >> > I just forward the message I received from Rob in total to " > >> >> > [email protected]". Got a return from SYMPA that the editors > >> >> > would > >> >> > look at it. If you or anyone else knows some magic to push this > >> >> > through, > >> >> > that would be great. The [email protected] has about 84000 users! > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> FYI, we currently have only 134 subscribers to the announce list. > >> > > >> > And the sky is blue - my suggestion use the website cut over for a > >> > legitimate announce list class event - send to both the new and the old > >> > announce list (assume and ask for it to be moderated onto the old one) - > >> > put a copy to the blog, even if others a planning more extensive blog > >> > posts - an extra simple post won't hurt. > >> > > >> > >> It might make sense to webs site migration, along with all the other > >> migration accomplishments as part of a general engagement with those > >> users. Here's what we've done, here's what we are doing now, here's > >> what to expect in 2012, here's where to find more info, etc. > >> > >> Remember, aside from a few hundred people (a relatively small number) > >> most of the 84,000 subscribers to the announce list will be hearing > >> about AOO for the first time. The initial note will be our > >> re-introduction. > > > > right - which might be the spot where Grahams concerns start to kick > > in.. just sayin'. > > > > I'm not sure from reading his posts if he is actually urging that we not > > play this up for the moment, but delay till a release and by then to > > have formulated and executed a more extensive re-branding...then again > > I'm likely not fully interrupting his thoughts correctly, such is the > > norm for written communications. > > > > So - in my head the answer for the moment is: keep it very simple - a > > couple of paragraphs with the explicit aim of getting the reader to come > > visit the new site (not so much a full overview of events) > > - those interested can find the new communication channels on the new > > web pages. > > > > maybe something a kin to - > > ********** > > > > For all but 500 or so of the 84,000 this would be entirely without > context. They would say, "Apache what? What the heck is a Podling?" > > Remember, the announce list is not a project community list so much it > is an end user list. So we'll want to have a good model for what they > know and what they don't know already. My guess -- and your guess is > as good as mine -- is that they vaguely recalled reading something > about LibreOffice, maybe something also about Apache. Maybe they > recently received a note from TOO. They are soft on the details and a > little bit confused. > > Your draft, on the other hand, would be perfect for sending to > ooo-users, and other project lists where the subscribers are already > "insiders" of one form or another. > > Another idea: if you think that know about our users and their > perceptions is worth knowing rather than just guessing, we might want > to conduct a survey of them, including a link to such a survey in our > initial communication.
Sure that is a good idea - how much time, realistically, do you want to a lot for putting that survey together - if you had to name someone to do it (draft some meaningful questions), right now, can you do that? Just wondering on that last part - overall yes it is a good time for that of course, if it can be done. //drew > > -Rob > > > > The Apache OpenOffice podling project management committee (PPMC) is > > pleased to present a new home for the OpenOffice.org website. > > > > This could not have happened without the thoughtful dedication and > > commitment from many of the members of the OpenOffice community, but > > none more so then Dave Fisher, Kay Schenk, Gavin M. [not sure who all to > > include here..help please] and the PPMC would like to specifically thank > > these individuals. > > > > [and then another paragraph or two on general information] > > > > Start the new year right - come visit the new Apache OpenOffice project > > home now! > > > > > > ********** > > > > Best wishes, > > > > //drew > > > > > > > > > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >> > >> > my .02 - > >> > > >> > @(Dave, Kay, Gaven, others all...) > >> > The new site is really great... > >> > > >> > //drew > >> > > >> > > > > >
