1. You can Save as UTF8 in Windows Notepad.

2. The BOM (Byte-Order-Mark) is a special two-byte prefix that is usually used 
with UTF16 to determine whether the two bytes of each 16-bit code are 
big-endian or little-endian.  Some products (including Windows Notepad) also 
put a BOM on the front of UTF8 streams.  Some software is hostile to it being 
there, other software accepts it and recognizes the following code as UTF8 
anyhow. You ran into a hostile case.

Since you don't see the BOM (it is on front of the file but is not treated as a 
character), and you are on Windows, you need a text editor that doesn't produce 
them and also discards any that it encounters.

I recommend an HTML editor.  If you prefer text raw editing, I think jEdit will 
work for.  It is a Java application, available on SourceForge.  The Windows 
version of gedit will also save text in UTF8.  That probably doesn't produce a 
BOM.  (It is difficult to know if one is there or not without looking at the 
beginning of the file in a hex editor/viewer.)

 - Dennis



-----Original Message-----
From: Reizinger Zoltán [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 22:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: svn commit: r1336368 - 
/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext

2012.05.09. 23:02 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
> On May 9, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
>
>> I'm not programmer and try to change Hungarian site.
>> What is the BOM?
>>
>> In this environment hard to me to do any useful work changing the Hungarian 
>> site to useful format.
>> I will stop doing it.
> I'd like to understand how that bad character was added. You weren't the only 
> one with the same problem and you won't be the last.
>
> What do you use to edit the mdtext files?
I used win7 notepad first(it was coded as ASCII, which is wrong if I 
need to use accented characters, but I not was aware to this).
In second case in Notepad ++ when I converted from ASCII coding to 
UTF-8, and I think it was correctly coded, possibly I needs to be aware 
to another settings, which I don't know.
Zoltan
>
>> But how can I proceed to do it?
> I've fixed these two files for you. It looks good at www.openoffice.org/hu/. 
> You can proceed.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> Thanks,
>> Zoltan
>>
>> 2012.05.09. 21:49 keltezéssel, Dave Fisher írta:
>>> Same problem here - what are you using to cause BOM?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 9, 2012, at 12:42 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Author: r4zoli
>>>> Date: Wed May  9 19:42:28 2012
>>>> New Revision: 1336368
>>>>
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1336368&view=rev
>>>> Log: (empty)
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>>     incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>>
>>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext
>>>> URL: 
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext?rev=1336368&r1=1336367&r2=1336368&view=diff
>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext (original)
>>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/hu/brand.mdtext Wed May  9 
>>>> 19:42:28 2012
>>>> @@ -1,10 +1,10 @@
>>>> -home:             home
>>>> -search:           keresés
>>>> +home:          home
>>>> +search:           keresés
>>>> name:              Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
>>>> -tagline:  (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>> +tagline:  (incubating) | Nyílt és ingyenes irodai programcsomag
>>>> logo:              AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
>>>> domain:            www.openoffice.org
>>>> divid:             bannera
>>>> announce:  Megjelent az Apache OpenOffice 3.4
>>>> announceurl:       /hu/aoo34.html
>>>> -announcetip:      Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>> +announcetip:      Olvassa el a bejelentést
>>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>>
>>>>
>

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