Hi

On 16.05.2012 20:47, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
On 16.05.2012 19:38, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann<
[email protected]> wrote:
On 15.05.2012 20:45, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
Am 15.05.12 16:11, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

From my point of view it would make sense to reactivate a simple update
service for AOO 3.4.

The update URL for AOO 3.4 is:
http://update38.services.**openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.
**Update<http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>

(plus a query part ?pkgfmt=<pkgformat> for non-Windows platforms)

As this URL resolves to nothing, the user currently gets the following
response from the update functionality in AOO 3.4:
Status: Checking for an update failed.
Description: General Internet error has occurred.

I propose provide the following XML document when a HTTP GET request to
the
above given URL is made:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<inst:description
xmlns:inst="http://**installation.openoffice.org/**description<http://installation.openoffice.org/description>

">
</inst:description>

Kay already made such an XML document available at:
http://www.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Update<http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update>


This response would allow the update functionality in AOO 3.4 to return
to
the user that the version is up to date.

Thus, to reactivate an working update service for AOO 3.4 a redirection
is
needed.


Are proposing that we just have a static XML file and redirect the
requests so it loads that static file?


Yes, as a short-term and fast solution.

I can see that as being a useful short-term solution. But soon we'll
need some more complicated logic, right? For example, when we enable
the 3.3. update check, we'll need to know that updates are available
for some languages, but not others. Can we do that all with
redirection to static files? Or do we need server-based logic, i.e.,
a cgi script?


Static files would be possible, because each version has its own update
service
URL, but it would be not the best solution for the long-term.
Thus, some server-based logic would make sense.

If we're going to need a cgi script in the end, I wonder if it makes
sense to start with one now? We could have a simply script that today
just always points to the "no update available" XML for AOO 3.4. But
then we make it more complicated as we go.


I am currently in preparation of a proposal for an update service for OOo
3.3
installations. Here, I can/will demonstrate how a server-based logic
would look
like.

Can somebody make this happen?
I have to admit that do not have the knowledge to do it on my own.


If we just redirect to a static file, I think you can just enter a
JIRA request for Infra. If we go with a cgi script then we need
someone to develop that script first.


If nobody objects, I would go for this short-term and static approach and
would
ask via JIRA request for Infra, if the redirect to the already existing
static
file can be established.


I will use issue 119361 - https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**
show_bug.cgi?id=119361<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119361>-
to track the progress on this task.

Best regards, Oliver.



OK, and a very short update on this.

I tried to deal with this and continually ran into issues.

At the simplest, I tired to make up a "generic" update for maybe all
platforms and languages that would just take them to a page to choose an
update -- basically our download/other.html at this point.


I think here some server-side script is needed.
A complete "generic" solution which provides a "static" XML document is to hard
figure out.

However, if you exclude the platform and other particulars in a very simple
XML file, nothing happens -- in other words, the URL is just ignored and
you get a "no updates" message. This is what is in:
/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.update
now.

That is right.
The update functionality searches in the returned XML for its operating system
and its architecture and a buildid which is greater than its own. If it does not
found it, it assumes that no newer version is available.


Also, life is complicated by appending the "pkgfmt " on update strings in

<AOO install directory>/program/versionrc (for linux...name will vary
depending on OS)


I will do some further checks with the URL query part.


For a "static" solution the URL query part should not be a problem. It seems to be completely neglected by the HTTP server. I have currently some static test XML documents on http://people.apache.org/~orw/testupdateservice/ The XML documents are included in the HTTP GET response regardless of the URL query part. As I am not an expert of HTTP and HTTP server, please correct me, if I am wrong here.

Best regards, Oliver.

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