On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 13:35 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM, drew <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 13:15 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, drew <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 14:50 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> >> On 05/28/12 14:25, Rob Weir wrote: > >> >> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Pedro Giffuni<[email protected]> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> Hi Rob; > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On 05/28/12 13:10, Rob Weir wrote: > >> >> >>> I'd like to start the graduation process, with the aim of being a > >> >> >>> TLP > >> >> >>> in time for the 3.4.1 release. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> The IPMC has a "Guide to Successful Graduation" page with a lot of > >> >> >>> detail and advice: > >> >> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> The calendar here is especially useful: > >> >> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> It shows 4 steps: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> 1) a vote on ooo-dev (a community vote) on whether we want to > >> >> >>> graduate now > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> 2) a discussion on ooo-dev leading to the draft of a charter for > >> >> >>> the new > >> >> >>> TLP > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> 3) an IPMC vote on whether or not to recommend the podling for > >> >> >>> graduation > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> 4) a vote by the ASF Board on a resolution creating the new TLP > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> This thread is just a proposal. It is not the actual vote called > >> >> >>> for > >> >> >>> in #1 above. But I'd like to gauge current sentiment. Are we all > >> >> >>> +1 > >> >> >>> for going ahead? If not, please list what pre-graduation tasks you > >> >> >>> believe need to be done first. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Thanks! > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> -Rob > >> >> >> > >> >> >> A reminder of a small, but IMHO significant, technical issue: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> We do have to take the category-B tarballs out of the tree > >> >> >> before graduation. > >> >> >> > >> >> > Do we? If I recall, there were multiple views on this and no > >> >> > consensus. But you are welcome to make a concrete proposal. > >> >> > >> >> Yes the situation was specifically postponed as a graduation > >> >> issue, I am not going through that discussion again. > >> >> > >> >> I made a concrete proposal with two alternatives: > >> >> > >> >> - They are moved to a friendly ftp/http site. > >> >> - I step down from the PPMC to avoid the community > >> >> the pain of a -1 vote. > >> > > >> > Please do not do the second - I know that someone was putting forward > >> > the idea that a -1 vote on the first RC was enough to disqualify that > >> > person from serving on the PMC but that was something that I can't > >> > believe people in general would agree with. > >> > > >> > >> A citation, please? > > > > Juergen talking about the fellow that didn't think a trranslation > > (Finish I think it was) was up to date - if you want me to search the > > archive I will but it is there. > > > > OK. I think at that time some were under the impression that a -1 on > a release vote was a veto. We now know that this is not the case. >
Could be - it was just the way Pedro phrased his comment I thought perhaps his thinking was being influenced by the earlier remarks. Thanks //drew
