On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM, drew <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 13:15 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, drew <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 14:50 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >> On 05/28/12 14:25, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Pedro Giffuni<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Rob; >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 05/28/12 13:10, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> >>> I'd like to start the graduation process, with the aim of being a TLP >> >> >>> in time for the 3.4.1 release. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> The IPMC has a "Guide to Successful Graduation" page with a lot of >> >> >>> detail and advice: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html >> >> >>> >> >> >>> The calendar here is especially useful: >> >> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel >> >> >>> >> >> >>> It shows 4 steps: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 1) a vote on ooo-dev (a community vote) on whether we want to >> >> >>> graduate now >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 2) a discussion on ooo-dev leading to the draft of a charter for the >> >> >>> new >> >> >>> TLP >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 3) an IPMC vote on whether or not to recommend the podling for >> >> >>> graduation >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 4) a vote by the ASF Board on a resolution creating the new TLP >> >> >>> >> >> >>> This thread is just a proposal. It is not the actual vote called for >> >> >>> in #1 above. But I'd like to gauge current sentiment. Are we all +1 >> >> >>> for going ahead? If not, please list what pre-graduation tasks you >> >> >>> believe need to be done first. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanks! >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -Rob >> >> >> >> >> >> A reminder of a small, but IMHO significant, technical issue: >> >> >> >> >> >> We do have to take the category-B tarballs out of the tree >> >> >> before graduation. >> >> >> >> >> > Do we? If I recall, there were multiple views on this and no >> >> > consensus. But you are welcome to make a concrete proposal. >> >> >> >> Yes the situation was specifically postponed as a graduation >> >> issue, I am not going through that discussion again. >> >> >> >> I made a concrete proposal with two alternatives: >> >> >> >> - They are moved to a friendly ftp/http site. >> >> - I step down from the PPMC to avoid the community >> >> the pain of a -1 vote. >> > >> > Please do not do the second - I know that someone was putting forward >> > the idea that a -1 vote on the first RC was enough to disqualify that >> > person from serving on the PMC but that was something that I can't >> > believe people in general would agree with. >> > >> >> A citation, please? > > Juergen talking about the fellow that didn't think a trranslation > (Finish I think it was) was up to date - if you want me to search the > archive I will but it is there. >
OK. I think at that time some were under the impression that a -1 on a release vote was a veto. We now know that this is not the case. > //drew > >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Pedro. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
