On 5/29/12 7:18 PM, drew wrote:
On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 13:15 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, drew<d...@baseanswers.com>  wrote:
On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 14:50 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
On 05/28/12 14:25, Rob Weir wrote:
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Pedro Giffuni<p...@apache.org>   wrote:
Hi Rob;


On 05/28/12 13:10, Rob Weir wrote:
I'd like to start the graduation process, with the aim of being a TLP
in time for the 3.4.1 release.

The IPMC has a "Guide to Successful Graduation" page with a lot of
detail and advice:  http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html

The calendar here is especially useful:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel

It shows 4 steps:

1) a vote on ooo-dev (a community vote) on whether we want to graduate now

2) a discussion on ooo-dev leading to the draft of a charter for the new
TLP

3) an IPMC vote on whether or not to recommend the podling for graduation

4) a vote by the ASF Board on a resolution creating the new TLP

This thread is just a proposal.  It is not the actual vote called for
in #1 above.  But I'd like to gauge current sentiment.  Are we all +1
for going ahead?  If not, please list what pre-graduation tasks you
believe need to be done first.

Thanks!

-Rob

A reminder of a small, but IMHO significant, technical issue:

We do have to take the category-B tarballs out of the tree
before graduation.

Do we?   If I recall, there were multiple views on this and no
consensus.  But you are welcome to make a concrete proposal.

Yes the situation was specifically postponed as a graduation
issue, I am not going through that discussion again.

I made a concrete proposal with two alternatives:

- They are moved to a friendly ftp/http site.
- I step down from the PPMC to avoid the community
the pain of a -1 vote.

Please do not do the second - I know that someone was putting forward
the idea that a -1 vote on the first RC was enough to disqualify that
person from serving on the PMC but that was something that I can't
believe people in general would agree with.


A citation, please?

Juergen talking about the fellow that didn't think a trranslation
(Finish I think it was) was up to date - if you want me to search the
archive I will but it is there.

it was indeed a misunderstanding and I indeed didn't understand the voting of -1 at this time. But putting it in this context is really not correct. I welcome everybody in the PMC. In this special case I tried to highlight that the common project goal should be higher rated than personal ones. But probably I wasn't able to find the correct words to explain it ;-)

Juergen



//drew





Pedro.







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