On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> I'd like to start the graduation process, with the aim of being a TLP > >> in time for the 3.4.1 release. > >> > >> The IPMC has a "Guide to Successful Graduation" page with a lot of > >> detail and advice: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > >> > >> The calendar here is especially useful: > >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel > >> > >> It shows 4 steps: > >> > >> 1) a vote on ooo-dev (a community vote) on whether we want to graduate > now > >> > >> 2) a discussion on ooo-dev leading to the draft of a charter for the new > >> TLP > >> > >> 3) an IPMC vote on whether or not to recommend the podling for > graduation > >> > >> 4) a vote by the ASF Board on a resolution creating the new TLP > >> > >> This thread is just a proposal. It is not the actual vote called for > >> in #1 above. But I'd like to gauge current sentiment. Are we all +1 > >> for going ahead? If not, please list what pre-graduation tasks you > >> believe need to be done first. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> -Rob > >> > > > > There is a LOT to go through here. I was OK up until the "Prepare a > > Charter" and then I'm confused. I see the minutes of board actions but > not > > actual charters(?) OK, I may have missed the essence...I'll move on. > > > > I think Charter == Board Resolution. > > So we need something according to this template: > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/podling-tlp-resolution.txt > > So the actual work for "Prepare a Charter" is to fill in the blanks in > that template, including project name, description and scope, > determining the initial PMC members and the PMC Chair. The calendar > suggested a week to figure these items out. It might take us longer. > oh --OK...I saw these in the minutes referenced in the guide, but, well, it didn't register with me I guess. > > > I think it's fine to "start the graduation process" at this time though > I'm > > not sure we'll make the 3.4.1 timeline proposal of July 31, 2012. (There > > seems to be a lot to do with this.) > > > > It is just a goal. If we don't make that date then the downside is: > > 1) We need to go thorugh the extra IPMC vote on the release and wait > for three IPMC votes > > 2) We cannot issue an official press release > > 3) The release has "incubating" in the name > > This isn't horrible, but if we can avoid it, then this is good as > well. But getting this done before we all leave for summer holidays > seems like a good idea. > I understand what you're saying. Interesting points I hadn't thought of. I was just concerned about some of the "machinations" this might involve. > > Pedro has brought up some points. The only thing I've seen that might be > an > > issue for us is the use of Apache mirrors, as we're currently using > > SourceForge for distributions also. > > > > Remember, we have permission to use SourceForge, and we're also using > the Apache mirrors, for the source distribution. So I think we're OK > here. > OK, my apologies...I looked up the thread on this (again)... http://markmail.org/message/quwkdctro7dpzyly and it seems to imply we CAN keeping using SF if we choose. (maybe it's time to document this somewhere...I'll see what I can do about this.) > > > -Rob > > > > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MzK > > > > "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." > > -- Mark Twain > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." -- Mark Twain
