On 6/26/12 4:07 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Andrea Pescetti <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>> Wearing my IPMC and PPMC hats. I've changed blog entry titles. Sorry >>> for our oversight (or lack). Thanks for yours. >> >> >> Was it really necessary? In the meantime, Rob had edited the blog entries to >> insert: >> >> (Apache OpenOffice is currently undergoing Incubation at the Apache Software >> Foundation.) >> >> and this seems a good trade-off to me, much more than adding "(incubating)" >> to the title, which will confuse users, especially non-native speakers (but >> also native speakers won't always be able to guess what "incubating" means >> in this context). >> > > +1. > > In fact, if you look at the IPMC's requirements for this, they are > here: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html > > "Naming > > After a podling has been approved, the lists are created, and the > initial code drop has commenced, the podling MUST be referred to as > Apache "Podling-Name" AND mention that the project is under > Incubation. Suitable mentions include: > > -- Inclusion of the http://incubator.apache.org/"podling-name"; URL > --- Apache "Podling-Name" is currently undergoing Incubation at the > Apache Software Foundation. > > Other references may only be used upon prior approval by the Incubator > PMC. These statements only need to be disclosed upon the first > reference in a document." > > Note that two incubation-disclaimers are given, and that neither one > of them are what Dave did.
I am wondering as well and I agree that it was somewhat superfluous. But we shouldn't stress it any longer and should focus on the right actions forward to graduate. I think that is the best thing we can do... I personally don't have interest in any further teaching lesson. Juergen > >> Honestly, I'd be for linking "undergoing Incubation" (in the clauses Rob >> added) to Don's post https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/what_is_a_podling or >> some more official explanation, and removing "(incubating)" from the titles. >> >> This would give all interested parties the opportunity to discover what >> "incubating" means, which is probably the rationale behind the rule to use >> "(incubating)" everywhere, and at the same time would keep titles easily >> readable. >> > > +1 > > One issue, I think, is that users have no idea what "(incubating)" > means. I had one user write me and joke about aliens in pods. We > shouldn't be leading with out-of-context internal Apache process > jargon. Perhaps that is why the Podling Branding Guide makes the > suggestions it does, and which I had already made to the post. > > -Rob > >> Regards, >> Andrea.
