Dennis,

On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> I suggest that one not be so careless about asserting ASF copyright on third 
> party materials.  
> 
> Why does this meme persist?
> 
> Please consult Legal before doing anything so outrageous.

You cc'd legal-discuss while cutting out much of this whole email completely 
destroying all context. (Please cc: ooo-dev since not all of us are going to 
subscribe to the list to participate in this discussion.)

Context:

IANAL, but I believe that the whole webpage with the project's own banner, 
footer and navigation can be copyright The ASF whether or not all content in 
between those elements may have another copyright or none.

Often we don't know the copyright because Sun and Oracle did not keep these 
records together - there is a list of copyright holders but no way of knowing 
if their material is still in the site or not.

We believe that we have implied consent to use all the material from Oracle 
that is on www.openoffice.org and related domains.

Dennis thinks it is outrageous to have an ASF copyright on these combined web 
pages, what does legal-discuss think?

If this should be or already is a LEGAL JIRA issue then I am fine discussing it 
there.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> - Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:01
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
> 
> 
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> 
> [ ... ]
> 
>> I still think that we should just post an ASF copyright notice, and
>> link to privacy and trademark policies.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> [ ... ]
> 

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