KG02 - See comments inline

On Jul 20, 2012, at 6:37 PM, TJ Frazier <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 7/16/2012 18:07, Kevin Grignon wrote:
>> KG01 - Hey all, I'm back from the unconnected world.
>> 
>> Great topic. See comments inline.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Yong Lin Ma <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just for the property sidebar. Kevin have done some analysis about how
>>> it can be integrated into AOO.
>> 
>> KG01 - Indeed, Symphony sidebar has some great behavior that we should 
>> adopt. My assessment identifies specific aspects of the Symphony UX to 
>> adopt, and identifies opportunities for AOO improvement as well. Ideally, we 
>> can provide a hybrib that reprenents the best of both tools. Next step is to 
>> move the line items into Bugzilla.
>> 
>> I would also note that there ate many aspects of Symphony UX that would be 
>> great to adopt. See. AOO UX wiki for more details.
>>> 
>>> The problem is the migration of it from Symphony won't be
>>> straightforward and no one is actually working on it as far as I know.
>> 
>> KG01 - hmmmm....
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Guy Waterval <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Yong Lin Ma,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2012/7/16 Yong Lin Ma <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>>> You may share ideas with Kevin who is working on UI changes backlogs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or propose ideas by yourself here
>> 
>> KG01 - visit the AOO UX wiki for more information on how we can move forward 
>> on our next generation UI.
>>>> 
>>>> What I find a great feature in LS is the "Context sensitive toolbar" which
>>>> allows to reduce the number of available toolbars in the Vue menu.
>> 
>> KG01 - Context sensitive toolbars are a great way to manage complexity and 
>> to progressively disclose tool actions. The Symphony task pane is a great 
>> start. We could explore other approaches to reduce the number of commands 
>> presented in the toolbars and make the available sections more contextual.
>> 
>>>> But OK,
>>>> I'm a Symphony user. Perhaps this feature would be found unpleasant for
>>>> most OpenOffice users.
>>>> Meanwhile, the impossibility to deplace this toolbar in the work area is
>>>> perhaps discutable.
>>>> 
>>>> A+
>>>> --
>>>> gw
>> 
>> KG01 - Re: next generation AOO UI. I will start a discussion thread on the 
>> AOO wiki to advance this exploration. See wiki for details.
>> 
> Hi, Kevin,
> 
> Two quick comments:
> (1) Links to the wiki are helpful to your readers here.

KG02 - Indeed, I'll create the pages and share the links when available. I'm on 
vacation right now, and will update the UX wiki in a few days. Much to discuss 
here moving forward. 

> (2) Pictures of the Symphony details are worth 10K words, especially in the 
> .ODT documents (it's easier there than on the wiki).
> 

KG02 - I understand. Great suggestion. 


> /tj/
> 

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