Hi Juergen,
2012/9/6 Juergen Schmidt <[email protected]> > Am Donnerstag, 6. September 2012 um 05:30 schrieb Rob Weir: > > On Sep 5, 2012, at 9:20 AM, "Jürgen Schmidt" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > On 9/5/12 11:32 AM, Ian Lynch wrote: > > > > On 5 September 2012 09:40, Regina Henschel <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > some time ago we expressed, that we think the project is ready to > graduate. > > > > > In the process of graduating, a proposal for a Project Management > Committee > > > > > (PMC) will be brought to the Apache Board. Although discussion > about > > > > > individual persons will not be done public, it is important to get > a shared > > > > > conviction about the criteria for our PMC members. > > > > > > > > > > You find information about project management and the role of the > PMC in > > > > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html > > > > > > > > > > With permission of Jürgen Schmidt I will show his items: > > > > > "For me a good PMC member is somebody > > > > > - who is active and visible in the project. It's important that > others > > > > > can see or better are able to recognize valuable contributions. > > > > > - who driving the project forward by helping others to join the > project, > > > > > or helping other in general to find their way in the project > > > > > - who help to grow the eco-system and the popularity of the > project, eg. > > > > > increasing the user base by promoting the project actively on > > > > > conferences, via new medias, etc. > > > > > - who take responsibility for tasks that have to be done and that > help > > > > > to drive the project forward or that help to simply run it. > > > > > - who is able to transport and communicate the vision of the > project > > > > > - who is able to prevent misbehaviour and misconduct on our main > > > > > communication tool the mailing lists but also on our extended > > > > > communication tools like social media > > > > > - who is able to bring in new ideas in the project that opens even > more > > > > > opportunities to grow and to evolve > > > > > - ..." > > > > > > > > > > And here my thoughts: > > > > > A PMC member... > > > > > ...is a person all can trust in. > > > > > ...preserves overview about several areas. > > > > > ...knows, who is expert in a special area, and encourage people > from > > > > > different areas to work together on a topic. > > > > > ...is willing to guide a newcomer. > > > > > ...can identify opposite directions in the community before things > > > > > escalate. > > > > > ...knows about formal requirements and about the Apache structure. > > > > > ...has a vision about the direction of the project, but on the > other > > > > > hand accepts reasoned different development without being offended > (? > > > > > German "eingeschnappt") > > > > > ...sets a good example in treating others and working for the > project. > > > > > ...is reliable. > > > > > ...is willing to assume responsibility. > > > > > ...puts his heart and passion into the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you miss aspects? Do you think a special item is irrelevant? > What is > > > > > essential? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is aware of the limitations of mailing lists in communication and > > > > actively strives to communicate to engender positive feelings in the > > > > audience. > > > > > > > > Has thought carefully about the role of a PMC member and actively > > > > communicated an intention to be active in that role rather than just > a > > > > name on a list or solely involved in committing code. > > > > > > > > > > > > > we had already some longer discussions on this topic on our private > list > > > which was the result or part of an ongoing process to define a final > PMC > > > that we want to suggest to the IPMC and board as it is required for > > > graduation. > > > > > > Regina has provided a link that give you further information about this > > > topic and what it means to be a PMC. > > > > > > I would like to ask everybody (and especially the PPMC members) here to > > > think about this as individual and what it means for themselves or if > > > they would be interested in being a PMC. > > > > > > > > > I know someone who had the image of an ideal husband, a long list of > > essential qualities, but unfortunately these qualities never came > > together in one person outside of cheap romance novels. Unwed, bitter > > and old was the end results. > > > > So I tend to think of this from a team perspective: what capabilities > > do we need in a PMC? We're not limited by monogyny laws. We don't > > need to find the ultimate uebermensch PMC member. We need a strong > > team. And since most team members will be part time volunteers this > > suggests they might do one nor two things well but gave little > > interest in other areas. We should accept that. > > > > > > I totally agree and that is fine from my pov. The idea is more that people > start thinking about the PMC and what it does mean to be a member of it. > For example if a PPMC thinks that it is happy with the thinks it is doing > and don't want to be in the final PMC for some reason this member can give > us as signal. > You are right. It's important, I think, to avoid this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle A lot of companies apply this principle, without knowing it. A+ -- gw > >
