On Thursday, October 25, 2012, Donald Whytock wrote: > Apache Camel uses an "Estimated Complexity" custom field in the Apache > Issues Tracker. Current values in it are "Any", "Unknown", "Novice", > "Moderate", "Advanced", "Guru" and "Needs James Gosling". > > Had to look him up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Gosling > > Don > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > On 12-10-24, at 16:28 , "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> > wrote: > > > >> @Regina, > >> > >> Yes, Wizard is a reference to the level of mastery that a solver must > >> possess, and is one of those "which one of these words does not belong" > >> solutions. > >> > >> There is a well-known *logarithmic* difficulty scale that has been used > >> over 40 years for problem difficulty. It might be worth adapting: > >> > >> (after unknown), > >> > >> 00 easy - immediately solvable by someone willing to do it > >> 10 simple - takes minutes > >> 20 medium, average - quarter hour > >> 30 moderate, an evening > >> 40 difficult, challenging, non-trivial (term project, GSoC...) > >> 50 unsolved, deep, requires a breakthrough, research > >> (PhD dissertation) > >> 60 intractable (that I just made up - probably not something that > >> is technically feasible regardless of skill, Nobel Prize, > >> P = NP, etc.) > >> > >> I suspect this scale has too much at the low end and perhaps not > >> enough steps at the high end. Perhaps there are two factors - skills > and > >> work factor - how long for someone of the necessary skills? Or else > >> work factor is suggestive of the level of skill? > >> > >> easy - minutes (fixing a typo on a web page) > >> simple - hour(s) > >> moderate - days > >> difficult, challenging - weeks > >> hard, demanding - months > >> stubborn - years (aka, intractable) > >> > >> All of these assume fluency with basic tools and facility with the > subject matter of the issue. > >> > >> For example, fixing change-tracking is at least hard. > >> > >> - Dennis > >> > > One aspect that has been used and not used enough is to consider this in > light of how a student or neophyte might approach the task and whether it > demands the added help a mentor can offer. > > > > Louis > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Regina Henschel [mailto: <rb.hensc...@t-online.de> > rb.henschel@t-online. <rb.hensc...@t-online.de>de<rb.hensc...@t-online.de> > ] > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 13:04 > >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] "difficulty" field for Bugzilla > >> > >> Hi Rob, > >> > >> Rob Weir schrieb: > >>> As you have probably noticed, I'm engaged in a variety of initiatives > >>> to grow the community, bring in more volunteers, etc. One additional > >>> piece that I think would be useful is to add a new field to Bugzilla > >>> to indicate the difficulty level of the bug. Of course, this will > >>> often not be known. But in some cases, we do know, and where we do > >>> know we can indicate this. > >>> > >>> What this allows us to do is then have search filters that return only > >>> open easy bugs. These are ideal for new developer volunteers on the > >>> project who are looking for items that match their lesser familiarity > >>> with the code. It also allows a developer to step up to more > >>> challenging bugs over time. > >>> > >>> A similar approach, which they called "easy hacks", was successfully > >>> used by LibreOffice. > >>> > >>> If there are no objections, I'll add a new field to Bugzilla called > >>> "cf_difficulty_level", and which a drop down UI with the following > >>> choices: > >>> > >>> UNKNOWN (default) > >>> TRIVIAL > >>> EASY > >>> MODERATE > >>> HARD > >>> WIZARD > >> > >> WIZARD is used in AOO UI in the meaning of 'assistant' or step by step > >> workflow. Therefore it might be not understood here. I need to look up > >> other meanings in a dictionary. I would drop it. HARD as highest step is > >> sufficient. > >> > >> TRIVIAL
KG01 - Perhaps we need to separate complexity from size? While this adds yet another field, it does help triage and scope work items.
