Thanks a lot for a putting my life back together :-) I have worked several years as consultant for sun (not OO but sun PC) and used an equal amount of time playing with axis and apache server so I do understand some of the complexities.
please see me comments below. rgds Jan I. On 14 October 2012 18:46, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM, jan iversen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I am getting slightly confused, can someone with more knowledge please > > spent a few words to restore the world picture for a newbie ! > > > > Sure. > > > During the last couple of hours, if have read mails that are more > confusing > > than helping, mainly because I think I have a different the background > (in > > old days apache was one very prof. project and openOffice another), so > > please excuse my stupid questions, and please correct me if I should > place > > the questions elsewhere. > > > > Are these emails on this mailing list, ooo-L10n? I hope they were > not very confusing. > I am also a listener on the ooo-dev list, and thats where I heard about LO and AOO, but I think a lot of people are on both lists of course for different purposes. > > > I thought openOffice was openOffice, but now I have learned there is > > something called LO and something (which I think is the real thing) > called > > AOO, is that the "old" before apache version, and AOO is the apache > world ? > > > > Sure, a brief history lesson: > > OpenOffice.org was the project under Sun, started back in 2000. When > Oracle bought Sun they donated it to Apache and the project moved from > being a corporate-controlled project to being a community-run project > at Apache. As part of this move Apache was giving the website and the > registered trademarks for "OpenOffice.org". > > However, in order to adapt to Apache, we voted to rename the product > to "Apache OpenOffice", the same naming scheme used by all other > Apache projects. It was a close vote. Many wanted the name to be > Apache OpenOffice.org, but the current name won by narrow margins. > > AOO == Apache OpenOffice == the new name for OpenOffice.org > > You'll see both names in use, since we still refer to versions 3.3.0 > and earlier as "OpenOffice.org". But 3.4.0 and later is properly > called "Apache OpenOffice". > > LO = "LibreOffice" is a fork of OpenOffice.org made back in 2010. > Now I understand the localization process better, it is actually reminisces of the old sun tools. Back in the 90ties I had a conversation with a high ranking SUN officer, who told me that life would be a lot easier if the world just would speak US...my answer was of course, it would be nice but it should be danish :-) > > > There is also a l10n.openoffice,org homepage which suggest that there is > a > > project team thinking along the same lines as I do, but it has not been > > updated since august 2008...have I missed something or am I doing > parallel > > work ? > > > > There are many pages on the website that are out of date. But you are > in the right place. This list is where we are working to get the > localization effort for AOO organized. There is no other effort. > So in other words, my effort it not wasted or putting my foot down on someones toes ? > > > > What is the board doing, when I started working with open source long > time > > ago, it was all done in our spare time. Even when I worked with > apache/AXIS > > it seemed quite simple, but all this voting etc.... > > > > Where are you seeing voting? > There has been a number of mails from andrea, and I think yourself about voting for PMC on this list. > > > I have scouted around in apache.org, but do not find any answers I > > understand, can anybody give me a hint where to read ? > > > > Please bear over with a newbie, and cut me a bit of slack. When I start > > investing time I do research, because I want to help and not to annoy > > people. > > > > One thing to note: When OOo was under Sun, it was a single open > source project, and had its own governance model, with Community > Council, NLC, Engineering Steering Committee, Projects and Project > Leads, etc. At Apache we are one project among many under the Apache > Software Foundation. But even though it is a much larger > organization, the hierarchy is much flatter. We're a "meritoracy". > We don't have a declared Localization Lead. The person who leads is > the person who does. The overall project has a Project Management > Committee (PMC) which deals with some formal matters, such as voting > on releases. And the ASF has a Board that deals with larger > Apache-wide issues. But within the AOO project you should not see a > lot of voting going on, at least normally. > > You can read a bit more about decision making in the project here: > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/community-faqs.html > > And this page is good for explaining things like roles at Apache: > http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html > > Regards, > > -Rob > > Thanks again for your answers, maybe someday I will make it past a newbie and be a contributor. Let time pass and lets see what happens in life. > have a nice sunday. > > Jan I. > > > > Ps. I am still working hard on the Localization document, and if the > > compiler wasn´t playing with me I would be one step further. >
