Learning curve? What learning curve? Calc works just like any other
spreadsheet. Just a few features that are different like there are no
‘ants’ surrounding an area that is to be copied, which is unnecessary
anyway.
Also more people use Excel because of marketing. Microsoft spends a lot of
money to tell people about the wonders of their products. But it seems to
me that more people are finding out about OpenOffice and abandoning
Microsoft products. This is why Microsoft is having a problem competing
with open source applications. At least, that is what I’ve heard. Some of
it from the news media.
Is that their only argument? A lot of people using something doesn’t make
it better. It makes it popular. Besides, Apache isn’t in competition with
Microsoft. Microsoft is in competition with open source. Also Calc can
import / export Excel spreadsheets or any others for that matter. That is
why Calc is better: It’s compatible with other applications. I cannot
remember what the technology is called right now, but it makes the whole
OpenOffice suite more flexible than proprietary applications.
--
Rod Lockwood <[email protected]>
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13:30 <gianp> Technodrome, Anyway, I use technologies that allow me to
create things and be productive. I'm really not very interested in cults
of personality or developer fads.
13:31 <tonym> Hello! I'm doing some research on Microsoft Excel vs
OpenOffice Calc - exactly why is Excel better? Judging by battle videos
like these - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMKjChWM0Mo - all Excel has
is
a fancier GUI and a bunch of autocorrect features nobody ever needs. Or
am
I wrong?
13:31 <gianp> I just would caution against being totally cynical about
the
fact that a lot of people making a lot of money have settled on a very
small set of technologies because they think it gives them an advantage.
13:31 <gianp> They might well be right!
13:31 <@rmah> tonym: you are wrong
13:32 <tonym> rmah: Can you give me some real-world examples as to why?
13:32 <@rmah> Excel has more features for analyzing and processing
tabular
data than you can imagine
13:33 <tonym> I understand you've spent a great deal of your life working
with Excel and that your ego probably is coming to the rescue here, but
OpenOffice Calc also has a lot of features for analyzing and processing
tabular data.
13:33 <@rmah> the formatting crap is fairly blah
13:33 <tonym> As for the features I *can't* imagine - I probably don't
need
them.
13:33 <@rmah> perhaps you don't
13:34 <@rmah> but that's not what you asked
13:34 <@rmah> you asked "all Excel has is a fancier GUI and a bunch of
autocorrect features nobody ever needs. Or am I wrong?"
13:34 <tonym> I'm asking for real-world examples
13:34 <tonym> So I can help the OpenOffice community
13:34 <Technodrome> gianp: twitter is failing me, but if you look at his
twitter its there, if your a scala guy you would know this :) ….it was a
big deal for them when he said that since hies the main twiter of most
scala books and many people use scala just because of lift
13:34 <@rmah> you can connect excel sheets to draw data from a variety of
data sources, ranging from SQL databases to web services
13:34 <gianp> tonym, OK. The argument basically goes like this for any
piece of software with a significant install base:
13:35 <@rmah> you can then feed that data into a pivot table
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13:35 <gianp> A million users know how to use Excel. OOO Calc is not
exactly Excel. Therefore Excel is better.
13:35 <@rmah> you can then use do multi-scenario what-if analysis with
consolidation and validation
13:35 <tonym> rmah: Calc does that too though, I just crunched some
serious
PostgreSQL and SQLite databases over here in the lab
13:35 <@rmah> you can then use that to create statistical summaries that
format based on conditionals
13:35 <gianp> For "Excel" and "Calc" there you can read any two things
where one is used by more people.
13:36 <@rmah> tonym: if OO Calc is enough for you, that's fine
13:36 <@rmah> but that was not your original claim
13:36 <tonym> rmah: Again, OO Calc has all the features you mentioned
13:36 <@rmah> ok
13:36 <gianp> People use Excel because they know how to use Excel well.
They don't use OO Calc because it doesn't work exactly the same way as
Excel.
13:36 <tonym> So your claim that you've repeated over the past few days
that Excel is better, simply won't hold
13:37 <@rmah> tonym: ok
13:37 <gianp> tonym, See my much broader claim.
13:37 <tonym> gianp: Indeed
13:37 <gianp> There are a million programming languages that are better
than <mainstream language>, but they aren't the right tool for the job
for
most people because they aren't exactly <mainstream language>
13:37 <tonym> its kinda like musical taste I guess where it's not
actually
about the music but about the fact that that person *chose* it and made
it
his own
13:38 <gianp> It's a little different to musical taste in the sense that
if
I switch music tastes I lose nothing.
13:38 <gianp> If I switch software to something that makes me less
productive on account of the learning curve, I lose money
13:38 <tonym> true that man, true that
13:39 <tonym> lose soul maybe ;) but you cant measure that so
13:39 <tonym> hehe forget i said that
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Tony <[email protected]> wrote:
Why Microsoft: Microsoft Excel vs. OpenOffice.org
Calc<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMKjChWM0Mo>
Hello!
Any chance Calc soon can embody these features as well so this video
becomes redundant?
Tony
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