On 2012/08/22 07:28, Dan saID: > Guenter Marxen wrote: >> Hello imacat, >> >> Am 21.08.2012 22:11, schrieb imacat: >>> On 2012/08/22 03:39, Dan said: >>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> Thank you~ ^_*' Trying to create cool things to promote >>>>> OpenOffice >>>>> and getting such feedback is really frustrating. ^^; >>>> >>>> Things like this can be frustrating. Perhaps your first email >>>> should have contained much more information. Your introduction is very >>>> close to what too often appears in spam emails that many of us have >>>> seen. I don't know, but I doubt that very many of the people of this >>>> list knows what COSCUP 2012 is or what it does. (Some of us may be too >>>> lazy to look it up.) This means that most would not know what this has >>>> to do with Calc which is a spreadsheet application. >>>> Spam has taught people to be suspicious when they see something >>>> new. So they reacted negative to your emails. >>> >>> Could you please stop this, will you? I'm only asking for kindness >>> on this list. This very same mail got positive responses on ooo-dev and >>> our local lists. Your opinion is proven incorrect and does not help. >> >> please don't be too angry with elder people like Dan Lewis >> ([email protected]). >> >> Not having this name but beeing elder, I like your video and think, that >> younger people will be more attracted by your video than by most of >> serious "advertising" mails. And this is good for AOO! >> > But I'm not angry, and please don't see it as such. Mine were just > comments of why he may have gotten the reception he did. And older > people have gotten angry based upon what they see. I suppose younger > people have also misinterpreted what an older person has said. I was > asking him to consider how others might interpret what he had done. What > he intended was not how others seem to have seen it.
Thank you, Guenter and Dan. And I do not think Dan was angry, too.
I'm just tired to be patiently explaining trivial things, like the
rules of YouTube, if that blocks communication.
And it's "she", not "he".
Also I may not be as young as you might think, although I guess Dan
is a little elder than me.
To the point of communication: Actually, its my experience all
these years to be short and terse. From my past experience short and
terse mails get read more effectively. But this is not a standard in
nature. Human communication is complicated. Everyone has her/his own
mind, and I sometimes still get into trouble.
So, what I asked is a little kindness and patience, but not focusing
on what I had done wrong. I'm not expecting everyone to like my work.
It's fine if you do not like it. But I was not expecting to be treated
as a scam twice by a same single person, and then another is analyzing
my mistake as if it looks like a scam by nature, but not by a same
single person.
I cannot control what a single person may think, though. It's just
a single person who started this, and this still frustrated me.
> Here are a couple of questions: Does people of OOo-DEV know what
> COSCUP 2012 is all about? Do the people on the local list know him and
> about this conference?
> There is a lesson to be learned here. He has gotten his feelings
> hurt. He seems to have made some assumptions when sending his email, and
> some of use made some assumptions when reading it. They just were not
> the same assumptions. It might be wise to consider how for both side to
> figure out how to bring those assumptions closer together. After all,
> the purpose of communications is take the ideas of one person and give
> those ideas to others.
> A person could read all that I have written and with certain
> assumptions, consider that I wrote everything in a great deal of anger.
> It would just be the wrong assumption. Or, I may be an older person, so
> my ranting should be over looked. I don't know how much of that is the
> correct assumption either.
> Here is an example of what may be an assumption that is not what is
> meant. "Elder" is a title that I have because I am an ordained minister
> of a small denomination in the United States. It has nothing to do with
> being an older person. And this leads to another assumption: they refer
> to me as a "Rev." which is not the right one either.
> There are lessons to be learned by all sides. Someone getting upset
> because of what happened does not solve anything. We can all learn from
> each other.
>
> --Dan
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