On 11 May 2005 23:08:47 +0100, Peter TB Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> First off, let me say that I understand the predicament you're in --
> I'd like to assure everyone that it's much, _much_ harder to detect
> copying of an RTL source than of software code.
> 
> OTOH, if I was in your position I wouldn't actually be particularly
> bothered by a competitor making an FPGA card and marketing it as
> "Optimised for OGP" or whatever.  Basically, my rational is thus:
> 
> 1. They hope to sell cards thanks to OGP
> 
> 2. If they kill off OGP, the sort of people who would have bought
>    cards, won't
> 
> 3. So even if they put OGP out of business selling _hardware_ they'd
>    probably be amenable to making substantial contributions to the
>    project or just buying the OGP team out and giving them jobs -- in
>    which case having GPL'd the RTL would be a _good_ thing from the
>    POV of the community

Do you think people who decide to do this will be the sorts that think
far enough ahead to consider the consequences?  Here's a great
opportunity to possibly make a notable amount of money in a short
period of time, with a huge chunk of their work already done for them
at zero cost.  To some people, that's good enough... suck what you can
out of it until it dies then move on.

Reasonable people would realize that a better business approach would
be to license our code so they have the love and support of the
community and the developers.  We're not really all that worried about
reasonable people here.

We're also not trying to deal with highly likely situations either. 
Investors are afraid of bad things that COULD happen, even unlikely
ones.  They want to make sure that bad things are PREVENTED.

It's also confusing to some investors who don't care to totally
understand things.  The question is, "Why would someone pay you for it
if they can get it for free?"  Mind you, there are answers to this for
both open source software and hardware.  But the very fact that
someone can "get it for free" blows the minds of some business people.
 They want to make sure that only we can make money from it.  This is,
of course, vendor lock-in.  But we only need lock-in for a long enough
period of time for an investor to get their money back with some
gains.  And some of those things are negotiable.

It's bad enough that there is no market research to prove our case.

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