> > But Timothy is looking for projects that don't depend on video:
> >
> 
> At least nothing complex.  If we had a simple RISC processor design
> that was worth-while to put into an FPGA, we could do someone's X
> server-on-a-card idea.  In fact, we've got everything we need for a
> powerful terminal.  We can hook up serial, USB, ethernet, keyboard,
> and mouse to the I/O bus on OGD1.  We can put a CPU with basic video
> logic into the FPGA.  The CPU can have a few special instructions to
> speed up some drawing operations, but most of the drawing would come
> from regular general-purpose code plus perhaps a
> bitblt-offload-engine.

Okay, I'm confused.

Why is the above X11 server not complex but my audio/video server box
idea complex?

Is there a significant difference in complexity between an X11 server
and a television server?  I was thinking the same server could do both.

I thought that FPGA is expensive and power hungry?

> I'm not sure where we'd store the X server and basic OS kernel,
> though.  I suppose we could put a monitor/dumb terminal program in the
> PROM that could accept an OS image upload/download from somewhere else
> over the network.

The X terminals I'm familiar with have either a small amount of PROM
with bootstrap, diags, ping, download-the-X11-server, and human interface,
or a larger amount of PROM with that plus the X11-server.  Having the
X11 server in PROM is very nice, it allows using the X terminal as a
RS-232 console for headless computers without a catch-22 of needing the
computer to be up to serve the X-server code to the X terminal and needing
the X terminal up to see why the computer will not boot.  If you have a
problem booting the computer, you can use X's cut-and-paste to capture
the messages.

> The thing is, companies have tried over and over to sell stand-alone X
> terminals, and they never had much success.

I think NCD (and perhaps others?) was doing okay for awhile, then people
decided they wanted a virus server box sitting on their desk.

I think X terminals are great.  Small and quiet.  I don't want a big
noisy box in my office.  I don't want a big noisy box in my living room.
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