In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ray Heasman writes:

> > the stated primary intended uses of
> > this design are "2D desktops plus the simple 3D eye candy that is
> > popular in recent UIs."

How much does adding useless eye candy hurt things?  Transistor count?
(read: cost/power/heat)  Design time? 

> There will always be a proprietary chipset with open source
> drivers that beats what an OGP design could do. This proprietary chipset
> will always be cheaper, because of volume.

What do you recommend?  ATI doesn't support sync-on-green.  Nvidea
drivers don't work.  Other brands?  Almost never hear about anything
except ATI/Nvidia.  Need open-source (not binary-only) drivers for at
*least* the BSDs and Linux.  Hardware decode of mpeg2ts, hardware scaling,
High quality s-video out.  DVI (preferably dual-link) or HMDI for the future.
The possibility of calibrated color if I decide I need it.  No fan.
The ability to see what the stupid firmware wanting 640x480 is printing,
using a fixed-freq or limited-multisync monitor.  (scan converter?
letter/pillerbox?)

> They are a lot less likely to pay more or accept a design if it is
> inferior to just about anything out there

Intel and Microsoft being the obvious counterexamples.

> Unless you can find
> something to do that is "cool" with the FPGA based cards, you are going
> to be seriously in the hole for making them and people won't do much
> with them.

Given that FPGA is expensive and power hungry the app had better be very
useful or the number sold will be very small.  If the number sold is small,
the profit per card needs to go up to pay for development/fab and to fund
the ASIC.  This was discussed a few weeks ago.  Seems like a long shot to
me, but I don't have insight into this market.
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