On 8/29/06, James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Rogelio Serrano wrote:
> On 8/29/06, James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > if i use the ogc i will not be booting into vga mode even on an x86. i
>> > will be using linuxbios and boot straight onto graphics mode.
>> >
>> And how will you do this?
>>
>> Will your System BIOS be configured for your monitor?
>
> no. linuxbios will configure the card. and since the card is open its
> not rocket science. with current proprietary cards its impossible to
> do that. the vga bios is a copyrighted opaque 16bit binary blob
> nonsense.
>
> why not vga then? because i can. the card has open specs. no need to
> go to vga and delay the bootup.
>
> the mode will be available via ddc. the bios does not need to be
> configurable at all. bios should just load the OS as fast as possible.
>
That would be the case with any monitor that provides DDC.  The issue
that I am raising is what we do with monitors that don't provide DDC and
won't support VGA.  How does Linux BIOS deal with such monitors?


linuxbios does not do anything special. it uses the vga bios now.
because nobody knows how to initialize the graphics card. its a well
kept secret. its up to the graphics card. thats why if we have an open
card why use vga? sure we can emulate the vga during bootup and we
jump through hoops to get out of vga mode like its the plague.

the guys with fixed freq monitors buy fixed freq video cards. very
expensive. we need to find a way to support them. if you had a bunch
of those monitors would you throw it away? not everybody would. its a
matter of choice.

linuxbios developers dump the vga bios from a running machine and
insert it in the rom image. ugly but thats the only option available.
there is already interest in the linuxbios list to to go beyond the
open graphics card. its a drive to standardise the hardware. they see
first hand the kind of hell a lack of hardware standards creates.

i would love to see an open northbridge.

--
things i hate about my linux pc:

1. it takes more than a second to boot up
2. keeps asking about filenames and directories
3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday
4. does not remember all the changes i have ever made
5.cannot figure out necessary settings by itself
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