On 11/24/06, Jonathan J Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






  Back on this subject again huh?.

This is really a can of worms.

A definition like "Requires HDL", means that NOTHING designed out of common
chips could be called open hardware, only things designed from the logic
level up could be.

Yes, "Requires HDL" is too narrow.  This is why the GPL goes on about
preferred forms, etc.  You have to be able to let people use standard
off the shelf chips, like RAMs and DVI transmitters, without needing
their internal designs.

But see, OGD1 is designed so that we're not reliant on a specific chip
but rather, a standard interface.  As long as something is replacable
in perpetuity, it's not any sort of practical problem.


There are MANY variations of themes here.


I could go about designing a complete workstation design utilizing common
available components, release all of the schematics and PCB designs, write
firmware/BIOS for it and release all of this to the public.  By definition
this still would NOT be Open Hardware compliant (according to some).  Is
this USEFUL? Or not?.

If you make one of these thing, list those things that are open
hardware.  It's good to use open hardware as much as you can.  When
you do, you can say that you do.

Another variation might require that the person
developing the firmware has access to information only available under NDA,
with no encumbrances on said firmware being distributed for any and all to
view/use.  Is this Open Hardware compliant because NOT _ALL_ of the
documentation is readily distributable?  Again is this useful or not?

So much open source software is undocumented... as long as we have the
designs and source code, we're happy.


In my view things that encourage more and more "openness" and head the
general state of affairs MORE that direction are probably more useful in the
short-term/long-term than a very RIGID methodology that Does little to
encourage or foster people, organizations, and companies to operate with as
interaction with the open community as they can.

Agreed.
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