> How do other Evergreensters deal with the traceability of patrons in case of 
 > offences, and press charges if needed? Or is your only tool of punishment, 
 > expulsion?

Well my librarian has a heavy yardstick and a look... it's really that look 
that gets the job done not my SSN.

I am not sure we need to set this policy as a community. It seems that Ident 
type is another policy that needs to be set at the organizational level.

Steve


-----Original Message-----

From: Kivilahti Olli-Antti [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 03:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] Feature proposal: SSN-censoring functionality

I agree with Mr. Peters that the default ident_type SSN should be removed to 
not teach bad habits.It is rather unfortunate that you see this solely as an 
en-US question, considering how much you push for an International Evergreen 
Community. The customizable SSN-censorer I came up with is a overkill atm, but 
if somebody would like to store their SSN's in-db, and if we think of a larger 
International scope that is highly probable, we should expect this 
functionality to be used, not just in Finland. Just thinking on large scale.If 
we were to implement this, and would like to use it, is there anything which 
objects to it's integration to master branch? This forces no-one to use SSN's 
that's for sure, this general filter could be applied to any ident_type really, 
if needed.But there was an idea of a arbitrary identification number. We could 
use a external program to store the SSN, accessible via this arbitrary id. I 
don't think our staff will endorse this idea though.Less time consuming 
alternatives are abundant, but unfortunately might end up as very 
individual.The main reason why we need to store SSNs, is the traceability of 
patrons in case of offences. I think we could trace 90% of the cases anyway, 
but how could we legally prove that this very person is the culprit? Well I'll 
look into that.How do other Evergreensters deal with the traceability of 
patrons in case of offences, and press charges if needed? Or is your only tool 
of punishment, expulsion?-- Olli-Antti KivilahtiOpen Library 2013Library of 
Joensuu
I agree with Mr. Peters that the default ident_type SSN should be 
removed to not teach bad habits.
It is rather unfortunate that you see this solely as an en-US question, 
considering how much you push for an International Evergreen Community. 
The customizable SSN-censorer I came up with is a overkill atm, but if 
somebody would like to store their SSN's in-db, and if we think of a 
larger International scope that is highly probable, we should expect 
this functionality to be used, not just in Finland. Just thinking on 
large scale.

If we were to implement this, and would like to use it, is there 
anything which objects to it's integration to master branch? This forces 
no-one to use SSN's that's for sure, this general filter could be 
applied to any ident_type really, if needed.

But there was an idea of a arbitrary identification number. We could use 
a external program to store the SSN, accessible via this arbitrary id. I 
don't think our staff will endorse this idea though.

Less time consuming alternatives are abundant, but unfortunately might 
end up as very individual.

The main reason why we need to store SSNs, is the traceability of 
patrons in case of offences. I think we could trace 90% of the cases 
anyway, but how could we legally prove that this very person is the 
culprit? Well I'll look into that.

How do other Evergreensters deal with the traceability of patrons in 
case of offences, and press charges if needed? Or is your only tool of 
punishment, expulsion?

-- 
Olli-Antti Kivilahti
Open Library 2013
Library of Joensuu

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