Thanks for everyone's feedback and information so far.

It is important to note the differences between the codes and the descriptions 
found in the permissions table.

the codes such as: "CREATE_ORG_TYPE" are used by the system and not just labels 
and thus would require developer involvement (for computer and human 
consumption) and outside the scope of the DIG. For adjusting those, the 
discussion should be taken to the dev list or dev meeting or by making an 
enhancement request in launchpad for a permission code reorganization. Or 
perhaps Joseph may be reviewing or could review that as part of his project?

The descriptions are more human informative so we can adjust these to make them 
useful without effecting the system and thus I think could be in the scope of 
the DIG to improve these.

Some good points were made about having documentation on traditional library 
roles or staff groups (cataloguer, circulator) and required permissions to 
carry out those roles.  Perhaps the improved admin interface work will include 
some  automatic permission assignments for particular library roles/groups  to 
make that easier?

Regards,
Robert




Robert Soulliere, BA (Hons), MLIS
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descriptions/map/matrix documentation?

I'd like to mention that life might indeed be getting easier for
configuration, we just got ourselves a smart student developer (Joseph
Lewis) as part of our Google Summer of Code involvement.

http://evergreen-ils.org/blog/?p=513

His project for the summer will be to: "Bring sanity to the Evergreen
configuration interface"

He has some great ideas and should probably sign up to the DIG list if
he hasn't yet so he can follow your discussions.

Cheers

On 05/12/2011 04:26 PM, Turner, Jennifer M wrote:
> YES!  It would be much easier to set permissions if related items were 
> grouped in such a fashion.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of Lori Bowen Ayre
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:15 PM
> To: Documentation discussion for Evergreen software
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-DOCUMENTATION] Evergreen Permissions 
> descriptions/map/matrix documentation?
>
> Deborah,
>
> Absolutely agree with you too!
>
> ORG_TYPE_CREATE
> ORG_TYPE_DELETE
> ORG_TYPE_UPDATE
>
> Much better!  Sounds like you should be the DIG Style Coordinator!
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Deborah Hensler<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> Hi, Robert,
>>
>> 1) I would love to see the copied permissions become actual
>> descriptions! I also don't like the varied terms used. Terminology
>> (allow or enable) should be consistent as well as plural or singular.
>>
>> 2) I was the person at the conference DIG meeting who brought up
>> listing the applicable permission(s) in the official documentation.
>> It's a project I'm in the very early stages of as we move toward
>> working with our first library. I volunteered at the meeting to take
>> that on and will share as soon as I'm further along.
>>
>> Also, I have created a permission matrix, still to be tested, but I'm
>> not sure it's what you're looking for here. We have developed specific
>> permission groups and the matrix lists those groups (Circ Clerk, Circ
>> Staff, Circ Supervisor, etc.) and their permissions. If that is what
>> you're thinking of and would like to see it I'd be happy to share.
>> Right now it's untested and I'm guessing on some, like those with no
>> description.
>>
>> On a different topic, I wonder if anyone else wonders about usability
>> of the current format of permissions, e.g,:
>> CREATE_ORG_TYPE
>> DELETE_ORG_TYPE
>> UPDATE_ORG_TYPE
>>
>> Speaking as an old indexer, I would find it more helpful if they were
>> listed as:
>> ORG_TYPE_CREATE
>> ORG_TYPE_DELETE
>> ORG_TYPE_UPDATE
>>
>> That would keep all of the permissions relating to one function
>> together instead of having to go through the list to find them. I
>> realize that's a bit beyond the scope of this discussion, but wanted
>> to put it out there to see if I'm the only one thinking this way.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
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