I agree that the system supplied parenthetical terms are not useful and in the 
case of films “added author” is misleading. It’s much more informative to have 
persons associated with a film have that relationship described in the OPAC 
display rather than having all simply display as “Added author” as rarely are 
any authors.

We need development so that EG will correctly display the relator  terms in 
subfield ‘e’ as well as the relator codes in subfield ‘4’. Evergreen does not 
correctly display the relator terms in subfield ‘e’ so it shows these as plain 
text following the name.  Being able to display the terms in subfield ‘e’ would 
be a huge improvement as more and more RDA records are added with these terms.

700 1\ $a Hermann, Edward, 1943- $e narrator = Hermann, Edward. Narrator (Added 
author)

But

700 1\  $a Hermann, Edward, 1943- $4 nrt = Hermann, Edward, 1943- (Narrator)


A corollary to this is the problem that if the 7xx field has multiple subfield 
‘4’s only of them displays, the last one. There are cases where a person may be 
a director, screenwriter, and actor.



Janet

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From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathy 
Lussier
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:23 PM
To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Duplicate entry in authors.tt2 (is this bug 
958954?)

Hi Sarah,

Looking at the subfield e information in that bug, Dan says:

Fall back to the $e if there is no explicit relator code;

It sounds like you are proposing the opposite, use the $e and, if it's not 
available, fall back to the relator codes (subfield 4).

I would support that change in direction.

It sounds like an LP bug is in order! :)

Kathy
On 05/28/2015 03:15 PM, Sarah Childs wrote:
If the bug is not the same problem as the one Tony is describing, it's very 
closely related.  The bug does refer to the subfield e, the RDA terms, and it 
looks like that's what the non-parenthetical terms are in his example.
I would vote for ditching the parenthetical terms entirely. If there are 
relator terms, display them (subfield e).  If there are not, but there are 
relator codes (subfield 4), translate and supply those. (Don't give codes, give 
terms.)  If there is nothing, give nothing, just the names. The parenthetically 
supplied terms are usually not that useful and often are misleading, redundant, 
or both.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Kathy Lussier 
<kluss...@masslnc.org<mailto:kluss...@masslnc.org>> wrote:
Hi Tony,

I think this is a different issue. The issue here is that we previously added 
(Author) or other relator information in parentheses for pre-RDA records. Now 
that we have RDA records, the record is also now displaying the relator 
information from subfield e.

Kathy

On 05/28/2015 02:41 PM, Tony Bandy wrote:
Hello everyone,

Quick check if you have a moment?  I’m working on TPAC cleanups for our 
consortium and am noticing title results that include duplicate author 
notations such as this:

Hillenbrand, 
Laura,<http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Hillenbrand%20%20Laura;qtype=author>
 author. (Author). Herrmann, Edward, 
1943-<http://blanchester-training.cool-cat.org/eg/opac/results?query=Herrmann%20%20Edward%201943;qtype=author>
 narrator. (Added Author)

Doing some digging around, this looks to me like Bug #958954 (see: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/958954)

-------------------------

Has anyone encountered this?  Do you think this bug is the same thing?

I can fix this somewhat by going into the authors.tt2 file and removing the 
default label, but with that approach, if there is nothing in the subfield, 
then there will be zero notation after the author’s name.


If I look at the details for the bug, Dan mentioned there was a fix released?


Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have!

--Tony

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